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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    iraq not an actual threat to the USA
    iran not an actual threat to the USA
    lies about iraq military capacity to justify unnecessary war
    lies about iran military capacity to justify unnecessary war

    looks like a direct parallel to me
    Libya wasn't a threat to the USA.

    Iran is not a threat to the USA? Iranians have been killing members of the US military for years.

    For the non-believers...

    U.S. military leader says Iranian weapons killing Americans in Iraq - CNN

    Iranian Weapons 'Killing Our Troops' in Iraq, U.S. Says

    Iran Killing American Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan - Jeffrey Goldberg - International - The Atlantic


    "We're not talking about a smoking pistol. There is no doubt this is Iranian," Jeffrey said in an interview.
    "We're seeing more lethal weapons, more accurate weapons, more longer-range weapons," Jeffrey added. "And we're seeing more sophisticated mobile and other deployment options, and we're seeing better-trained people."

    What does this mean? It means that Iran is waging war against the United States of America. Or, to put it another way, it means that Iran doesn't seem particularly interested in entering into a dialogue with the Obama Administration at the moment. Unless, of course, this is just a cry for help.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Libya wasn't a threat to the USA.

    Iran is not a threat to the USA? Iranians have been killing members of the US military for years.

    For the non-believers...

    U.S. military leader says Iranian weapons killing Americans in Iraq - CNN

    Iranian Weapons 'Killing Our Troops' in Iraq, U.S. Says

    Iran Killing American Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan - Jeffrey Goldberg - International - The Atlantic
    And what exactly was/is the U.S. doing in Iraq to begin with? Beyond that, the U.S. cannot ever point a finger at any nation and accuse them of supplying weapons to another nation! We wrote the book on doing that, chapter, line and verse.










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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This really makes me mad. What does Iran have to do to satisfy the United States that it is abandoning its efforts to make nuclear weapons? What proof do we have that they are even trying? They are being put in a no-win scenerio. And, yes, it is Iraq all over again. WMDs that didn't exist. Nuclear bombs that don't exist. And even if they do exist, what business is it of ours?
    The mind set of "Who cares if Iran has nuclear weapons" is alarming.

    If you lived in Israel you probably wouldn't be so trusting of a country that has called for your total destruction.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    The US military also claimed Saddam was trucking his WMDs back and forth between Sudan and Syria.

    Iraq was crippld by two decades of sanctions but thwar dragged on for nearly a decade.. Of course it was "Iran's" fault.

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Libya wasn't a threat to the USA.

    Iran is not a threat to the USA? Iranians have been killing members of the US military for years.

    For the non-believers...

    U.S. military leader says Iranian weapons killing Americans in Iraq - CNN

    Iranian Weapons 'Killing Our Troops' in Iraq, U.S. Says

    Iran Killing American Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan - Jeffrey Goldberg - International - The Atlantic

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Bingo! And guess what. Pakistan is so thrilled with the way the U.S. has prosecuted its war on the Middle East that as of yesterday it declare that it would ally with Iran if Iran is attacked by the US, Israel and/or the UK. Now it gets really interesting.
    russia and china might expect us to have second thoughts about attacking (or aiding israel's attack) against their trading partner

    Besides the Iranians don't even have to start it. Don't rule out a false flag where a US vessel is attacked by "Iranians". Soon after that the fit will hit the shan.
    this will likely get me tin foiled, but is it beyond the pale that an attack of the iranian facilities could be made with a nuclear device ... to give the appearance iran's efforts backfired
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    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    And what exactly was/is the U.S. doing in Iraq to begin with?
    Exactly, the US military was in Iraq, not Iran. The fight wasn't with the Iranians. Iran chose to enter the altercation.

    Did you not notice Iran has been killing Americans in Afghanistan as well?

    Beyond that, the U.S. cannot ever point a finger at any nation and accuse them of supplying weapons to another nation! We wrote the book on doing that, chapter, line and verse.
    So? You're deflecting. The issue is that Iran is a threat to the USA because they have been killing US servicemen for years, not who is supplying whom with arms.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Exactly, the US military was in Iraq, not Iran. The fight wasn't with the Iranians. Iran chose to enter the altercation.

    Did you not notice Iran has been killing Americans in Afghanistan as well?



    So? You're deflecting. The issue is that Iran is a threat to the USA because they have been killing US servicemen for years.
    no, i did not know that
    show us what proof you have which evidences iranian military action against our soldiers
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    russia and china might expect us to have second thoughts about attacking (or aiding israel's attack) against their trading partner


    this will likely get me tin foiled, but is it beyond the pale that an attack of the iranian facilities could be made with a nuclear device ... to give the appearance iran's efforts backfired
    tin foil hat.jpg
    Save enough tin foil for me because I completely agree with you.










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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This really makes me mad. What does Iran have to do to satisfy the United States that it is abandoning its efforts to make nuclear weapons? What proof do we have that they are even trying? They are being put in a no-win scenerio. And, yes, it is Iraq all over again. WMDs that didn't exist. Nuclear bombs that don't exist. And even if they do exist, what business is it of ours?
    Actually, the most recent IAEA report has pretty detailed information about Iran's nuclear program and its military portion of it. This includes its management structure, nuclear material acquisition, components for the nuclear device, detonator development, experiments, modeling, etc. They have deemed this evidence as credible. Furthermore, the IAEA has been pretty clear that Iran needs to fully cooperate with the agency and have Iran re implement its Additional Protocol (See NPT for details). Basically, Iran has been uncooperative with the agency, and there is now credible evidence the country is pursuing a nuclear weapon. It is our business because Iran is seen as a threat to one of our strongest allies, Israel.

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