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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I will agree to disagree. If the Israel were to agree to disarm their nuclear stockpile and withdraw to the boundaries of growth that the previously agreed to, and we agreed to remove our military forces from the Middle East, Iran no longer has an incentive to build an equivalent nuclear force.

    If I were in their position surrounded by Israel and 45 US bases and subs all with nuclear capability, I would be trying my best to create a nuclear capacity for defense.
    I very strongly disagree with this. If all of the actions above fell into place what incentive would Iran have to stop developing nuclear weapons? Iran wants to become a regional power. If you give them all of those concessions you are basically handing it to them on a silver platter. It is rather naive in my opinion to think Iran will just give up on those ambitions, especially if we were to practiacly give away all of our bargaining power as you suggest.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    You talking about the Iranian Regime? That they don't want nukes? Is that what you talking about?
    .... No ....

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    .... No ....

    who do you mean then?

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    who do you mean then?
    I thought it was pretty self explanatory. While folks like to describe Iran as a nation of wild-eyed maniacs, it is in fact perfectly rational for them to want to develop nukes for self defense.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I thought it was pretty self explanatory. While folks like to describe Iran as a nation of wild-eyed maniacs, it is in fact perfectly rational for them to want to develop nukes for self defense.
    Which is why we need to provide strong incentives in the other directions. We need to let Iran know that if they continue to pursue nukes the international community is going to shun them. We need to cripple their economy, continue to pressure them, and display our power and influence over the region. Simply conceding to Iran as some suggest will do nothing to stop Iran from pursuing nukes and will greatly shift the power in their favor, that should be obvious.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I thought it was pretty self explanatory. While folks like to describe Iran as a nation of wild-eyed maniacs, it is in fact perfectly rational for them to want to develop nukes for self defense.

    Fine, then it is The Iranian Regime you were refering to .... you gotta choose sides in wars .... no shame in it

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I very strongly disagree with this. If all of the actions above fell into place what incentive would Iran have to stop developing nuclear weapons? Iran wants to become a regional power. If you give them all of those concessions you are basically handing it to them on a silver platter. It is rather naive in my opinion to think Iran will just give up on those ambitions, especially if we were to practiacly give away all of our bargaining power as you suggest.
    They would have no need of them, it would be an unnecessary cost. Unlike the US, Iran has not invaded another country in 200 years.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Which is why we need to provide strong incentives in the other directions. We need to let Iran know that if they continue to pursue nukes the international community is going to shun them. We need to cripple their economy, continue to pressure them, and display our power and influence over the region. Simply conceding to Iran as some suggest will do nothing to stop Iran from pursuing nukes and will greatly shift the power in their favor, that should be obvious.
    I don't think it's going to work, but it's worth trying. The downside is that it drives up the price of oil and it may cause the Iranian people to rally around the flag.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Fine, then it is The Iranian Regime you were refering to .... you gotta choose sides in wars .... no shame in it
    I was just making an observation -- not choosing sides.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    They would have no need of them, it would be an unnecessary cost. Unlike the US, Iran has not invaded another country in 200 years.
    They are willing to pursue nuclear weapons when the country is facing massive economic sanctions from the international community and you think they will just stop if we leave them alone, pack up all of our military bases, and Israel disarms nukes? Hell, why on earth do we even have a military? If we just stopped wasting money on a military no one would want to attack us...

    Countries want to pursue power. They want as many resources as they can control. The world is not a happy peaceful place, it is a constant struggle for power.
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