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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not by Iran.
    That's true, and likewise Israel hasn't attacked Iran either.

    But the Grad and Katyusha missiles fired by Hamas commonly come from Iran via Syria. With all the missiles fired into Israel by Hamas, and Syria in revolt, I suppose the Iranian supply ship stopping in Syria was providing arms to re-supply Gaza, but that's mere supposition of course.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    That's true, and likewise Israel hasn't attacked Iran either.

    But the Grad and Katyusha missiles fired by Hamas commonly come from Iran via Syria. With all the missiles fired into Israel by Hamas, and Syria in revolt, I suppose the Iranian supply ship stopping in Syria was providing arms to re-supply Gaza, but that's mere supposition of course.
    That's a drop in the bucket to the $3 trillion dollars in military aid we have provided to Israel:

    "Total identifiable costs come to almost $3 trillion," Stauffer says. "About 60 percent, well over half, of those costs - about $1.7 trillion - arose from the U.S. defense of Israel, where most of that amount has been incurred since 1973."

    The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel - $3 Trillion
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    I still think using those words is inflammatory and disrespectful. I am sorry but that's the way I feel.
    You know what, Mya, I didn't care for them either. But honestly, justabubba DID specify a difference between the Israeli government and the people of Israel. And a lot of folks, including yours truly, have used some unkind words about the ****heads governing Iran. I have had some unkind words about our own ****heads in government. So fair is fair after all. Let's just suck it up and move on. Most people in government anywhere are idiots anyway, so it's not like they don't deserve it.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's a drop in the bucket to the $3 trillion dollars in military aid we have provided to Israel:

    "Total identifiable costs come to almost $3 trillion," Stauffer says. "About 60 percent, well over half, of those costs - about $1.7 trillion - arose from the U.S. defense of Israel, where most of that amount has been incurred since 1973."

    The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel - $3 Trillion
    Let's not forget illegal radical christian money to aid in the buildings of homes on annexed territory.

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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's a drop in the bucket to the $3 trillion dollars in military aid we have provided to Israel:

    "Total identifiable costs come to almost $3 trillion," Stauffer says. "About 60 percent, well over half, of those costs - about $1.7 trillion - arose from the U.S. defense of Israel, where most of that amount has been incurred since 1973."

    The Real Cost Of US Support For Israel - $3 Trillion
    That was military support, NOT active defense. We gave them the weapons, Israelis were the ones to actually apply the weapons.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    That was military support, NOT active defense. We gave them the weapons, Israelis were the ones to actually apply the weapons.
    How is that different than support by Iran, except of course that our support has been much greater?
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How is that different than support by Iran, except of course that our support has been much greater?
    Well that places both in the realm of proxies, I would say. The US support is for anyone antagonizing Israel, Iran's support of Hamas and Hezbollah is specifically to antagonize Israel alone.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    Well that places both in the realm of proxies, I would say. The US support is for anyone antagonizing Israel, Iran's support of Hamas and Hezbollah is specifically to antagonize Israel alone.
    I agree both are proxies, with one far outspending the other. However, I see little difference in Iran's support of the Palestinians and our support for Israel. I also contend that in the absence of military support of Israel to help in our hegemony in the middle east for their oil resources, you would not see support for the Palestinians by Iran.
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    ...I also contend that in the absence of military support of Israel to help in our hegemony in the middle east for their oil resources...
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    Re: PAPER: Military action against Iran 'likely'..

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I agree both are proxies, with one far outspending the other. However, I see little difference in Iran's support of the Palestinians and our support for Israel. I also contend that in the absence of military support of Israel to help in our hegemony in the middle east for their oil resources, you would not see support for the Palestinians by Iran.
    I'm just gonna have to disagree with you on this. If the US pulls military support for Israel, Iran would continue, and probably strengthen, their support for Hamas and Hezbollah. Iran's proxy war against Israel is conducted more to cement their position (in Arab eyes) as the regional power in the ME, than anything else. It wouldn't surprise me if Iran has no deeply felt disagreement with Israel. Jews are once again a mere pawn in someone's play for power.

    I don't think Iran is supporting the Palestinians out of Muslim brotherhood or altruism. I think they're supporting Hamas because they're a convenient tool to fight Israel with. If they really wanted to help the Palestinians, they'd smuggle in concrete and medical supplies, wheat flour, rice, and fresh veggies. What do you want to bet Iran isn't supplying any of these things? The Palestinians are just a pawn to Iran as well.
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