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    Re: Foster Friess: In my day women used Bayer aspirin for contraception.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    It doesn't; it was a response to the usual tactic of taking an issue and making about something else. Admittedly, it is easy to do with this particular topic because the issues of religouis freedom and birth control are intertwined.

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    Both sides are attempting to do that with this issue. Conservatives want it to be about religious freedom. Liberals want to make it about women's health. It's not fully about either. If the church gets its way, it won't have a big impact on women's health and won't curb most people's access to contraception. Otherwise, the no one will be forced to practice contraception or directly facilitate anyone else's practice.

    Personally, I find the church's objection anachronistic and, frankly, silly. My wife and I have practiced birth control regularly and, now, permanently. Insurance facilitated that -- as it should, as I pay a lot for the access. The idea that someone else should be denied that on the basis of their employer's religious beliefs seems absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Friesse is a sexist idiot. If people decide not to use contraception in their own relationships, fine and dandy. But to even hint that government should prevent everyone from using contraception simply because some people don't is ludicrous. And hinting that government should prevent everyone from using contraception because of the religious belief of some sounds downright unconstitutional.
    Wait a minute here...so, if Obama doesn't get to force the catholic church to provide contraception, either directly, or indirectly, against their doctrine, then contraception will be illegal?

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    Re: Foster Friess: In my day women used Bayer aspirin for contraception.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Friesse is a sexist idiot. If people decide not to use contraception in their own relationships, fine and dandy. But to even hint that government should prevent everyone from using contraception simply because some people don't is ludicrous. And hinting that government should prevent everyone from using contraception because of the religious belief of some sounds downright unconstitutional.
    The religious are not trying or hinting that no one should be able to use contraception, they simply do not want to pay for it. Whether you agree or disagree with the objections, they are not trying to prevent anyone from using contraceptives.

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    Re: Foster Friess: In my day women used Bayer aspirin for contraception.

    It was an old man repeating an old joke, no big deal but as usual the left wing media will do the mountain mole hill thing. The point of the old joke is valid though, keep your legs shut and you won't end up preggers.

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    Re: Foster Friess: In my day women used Bayer aspirin for contraception.

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Both sides are attempting to do that with this issue. Conservatives want it to be about religious freedom. Liberals want to make it about women's health. It's not fully about either. If the church gets its way, it won't have a big impact on women's health and won't curb most people's access to contraception. Otherwise, the no one will be forced to practice contraception or directly facilitate anyone else's practice.

    Personally, I find the church's objection anachronistic and, frankly, silly. My wife and I have practiced birth control regularly and, now, permanently. Insurance facilitated that -- as it should, as I pay a lot for the access. The idea that someone else should be denied that on the basis of their employer's religious beliefs seems absurd.
    And if part of the Church's accomodation were to refund a portion of health insurance back to the consumer because they do not provide contraception coverage, what would be wrong with that?

    This administration didnt even try to be accomodating is my point. There are solutions that are decent and acceptable to everyone, the administration choose the most narrow and when pressed feel back to a position that was only slightly less narrow when they could have presented a variety of solutions and sent them to the hill to be voted on. I dont think Sebellius and Obama should have "decreed" this, it goes to show what a terrible piece of legislation the Affordable Health Care Act really is.

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    Re: Foster Friess: In my day women used Bayer aspirin for contraception.

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostlyJoe View Post
    Both sides are attempting to do that with this issue. Conservatives want it to be about religious freedom. Liberals want to make it about women's health. It's not fully about either. If the church gets its way, it won't have a big impact on women's health and won't curb most people's access to contraception. Otherwise, the no one will be forced to practice contraception or directly facilitate anyone else's practice.

    Personally, I find the church's Muslims' objection anachronistic and, frankly, silly. My wife and I have practiced birth control eaten pork regularly... Insurance my grocery store facilitated that -- as it should, as I pay a lot for the access. The idea that someone else should be denied that the new Muslim grocer on the street would refuse to carry pork on the basis of their employer's religious beliefs seems absurd.

    huh. interesting.

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    Re: Foster Friess: In my day women used Bayer aspirin for contraception.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    huh. interesting.
    And also still correct, even with the changed parts.

    The lack of birth control causes serious quality of life issues for a huge number of people, while pork rarely does. However, in a hypothetical cases where there is an allergy or other meats to highly expensive, then accommodations should be made.
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    Re: Foster Friess: In my day women used Bayer aspirin for contraception.

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    And also still correct, even with the changed parts.

    The lack of birth control causes serious quality of life issues for a huge number of people, while pork rarely does. However, in a hypothetical cases where there is an allergy or other meats to highly expensive, then accommodations should be made.
    There is no shortage of birth control, nor is access limited. Some individuals are simply too stupid to use it.

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    Re: Foster Friess: In my day women used Bayer aspirin for contraception.

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    And also still correct, even with the changed parts.

    The lack of birth control causes serious quality of life issues for a huge number of people, while pork rarely does. However, in a hypothetical cases where there is an allergy or other meats to highly expensive, then accommodations should be made.

    Where is there a "lack of Birth Control"?????


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    Re: Foster Friess: In my day women used Bayer aspirin for contraception.

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Foster Friess: In my day, women "used Bayer aspirin for contraceptives" - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

    Foster Friess, a prominent backer of Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum, raised eyebrows Thursday when he offered up his own idea for a possible contraceptive method: "This contraceptive thing, my gosh, it's so... inexpensive. Back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraceptives."

    Friess's implication is that if women hold aspirin between their legs, they won't open them.


    OMG OMG OMG OMG. Wait for it.... Andrea Mitchell, what could she have said?
    She could've said, "Gosh, that's an old one!"

    Ann Landers made this same joke many times in her column.

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