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Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

What does AIDs as an STD transmitted between straight and gay people have to do with gay marriage in NJ?
 
I thought A.I.D.S. was started when some African ****ed a monkey.
 
Well you see that is one of the major problems because if gays get to marry in a civil ceremony the next thing they will be fighting for is to be married in a church. Remember my left wing friend its a step by step process to get gays accepted as a suitable alternative life style...........You give and inch they want a mile.

NP... this position has been refuted more times than I can count. NEVER will it happen because of the separation of church and state.
 
I thought A.I.D.S. was started when some African ****ed a monkey.

From what I know, this is true. I believe the African was heterosexual, but the sexual orientation of the monkey is still unknown.
 
What was it? you have to bear with me I am dealing with about ten of you left wingers at the same time..........What a joke someone said this forum was broken down 55-45 with Conservatives with the 55.....yeah right.

I posted that. It is 55-45 with Conservatives at 55. However, how people lean on the gay rights issue is representative of the country at large. EVEN many conservatives at DP support gay rights, which is how the country leans or is heading.
 
I thought A.I.D.S. was started when some African ****ed a monkey.

From what I know, this is true. I believe the African was heterosexual, but the sexual orientation of the monkey is still unknown.

Ummm...in African and South America, monkeys are eaten, for food. All it would take is one person preparing a monkey with the AIDS virus having an open wound on their hand.
 
That is the first time I ever heard that.........you really crack me up............give me a link for that bull**** OK

**** I forgot to put you on my ignore list................Give me that link before I do it......that is a riot...............:lamo

Ok heres your link. Im assuming you will ignore it like all of the other evidence posted.

Aids study shows it arrived in US in 1960s - Telegraph

AIDS virus invaded U.S. from Haiti: study | Reuters

AIDS Virus Traveled to Haiti, Then U.S., Study Says

Timeline of AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I posted several different cases from several different sources so that you couldnt just say the source is biased. All of those happened before patient zero was diagnosed with AIDS and I even included a timeline from wiki that has a couple other cases in case you wanted to look into them.

Im not too concerned about being on your ignore list. Actually I will take it as a sign that you cannot defend your position so therefor you must ignore anyone who disagrees with your world view. In fact im kind of honored that you would ignore me. I dont think im on anyone elses ignore list.
 
Hundreds have changed. why don't you take a minute, aw **** never mind

Hundreds out of how many who have tried? BTW they didnt change orientation they changed behavior. Two completely different things.
 
We sure were and I am getting tired of you calling me a liar when everyone knows that AIDS was started in this country in th eighties by gays and an some drug users.......No straight people in this country were getting it then......I truly believe it was before your time and I told you how to check it out but I doubt you did it.

Not every one knows that NP. In fact, almost no one who has actually studied it believes that gays started AIDS in the 80's(in fact, it was likely the 60's). Doctors saw that first cases of what would later be determined to be AIDS in the 70's. Here is something we call a source. It shows that what you know is not what you think every one knows, nor is what you know have any bearing in fact. The emergence of HIV/AIDS in the Americas and beyond. NP, you got to stop making **** up.
 
Never would happen. Did not bring them up that way..........Environment has a lot to do with it.........

Oh how you may eat these words one day. Environment has nothing to do with Sexuality. Never say never and I really hope you will love them 100% no matter what.
 
What does AIDs as an STD transmitted between straight and gay people have to do with gay marriage in NJ?

Oddly, since promiscuity is one of the highest risk factors for AIDS, and since marriage promotes monogamy(kinda the opposite of promiscuity), if AIDS is part of the discussion, it is certainly an argument in favor of SSM.
 
Oddly, since promiscuity is one of the highest risk factors for AIDS, and since marriage promotes monogamy(kinda the opposite of promiscuity), if AIDS is part of the discussion, it is certainly an argument in favor of SSM.

Sort like how contraception is the best way to minimize abortions ... and yet they want to restrict contraception.
 
Ain't gonna happen my far out left wing friend.......They are all married and have kids and are straight arrow............

So your grands have kids? OK. What if some of them (great grands) are gay? I hope you will love them no matter.
 
Sort like how contraception is the best way to minimize abortions ... and yet they want to restrict contraception.

Separate issue. And a very tiny minority of pro-life Catholics are basically the only ones against contraception.
Oddly, since promiscuity is one of the highest risk factors for AIDS, and since marriage promotes monogamy(kinda the opposite of promiscuity), if AIDS is part of the discussion, it is certainly an argument in favor of SSM.

Maybe so. Although one can certainly be monogamous without being married. The only reason homosexual males may have a higher chance of aids is because their typical sex of choice has a higher chance of transmitting it. The argument being made is that gays are icky because they got the AIDs and therefore shouldn't marry. It's a little more ignorant than the argument being made above your quote in my post.
 
Maybe so. Although one can certainly be monogamous without being married. The only reason homosexual males may have a higher chance of aids is because their typical sex of choice has a higher chance of transmitting it. The argument being made is that gays are icky because they got the AIDs and therefore shouldn't marry. It's a little more ignorant than the argument being made above your quote in my post.

Marriage is a more stable unit than other forms of relationships(as a general rule). Therefore marraige leads to more monogamy. Promiscuity is most common among those who are not married.
 
No offense but I had rather be the old fashion way to have children......That is just me though.....whatever floats your boat.

See that would be nice if you had a whatever floats your boat type of thinking but you have made it clear in this that you are NOT a "whatever floats your boat" kinda guy. If you were? You would have no problems with gay marriage or gay anything;)
 
NP... this position has been refuted more times than I can count. NEVER will it happen because of the separation of church and state.

You know the old saying CC, Never say never. I never thought no state would allow gay marriage either.
 
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That is so right.........a child could marry his mother a son could marry his dad strictly paternal... do you have any idea the problems that would make?

I give you credit for waiting a long time to pull out the old incest marriage B.S. I wonder when you are gonna toss in a billy goat? :roll:
 
I give you credit for waiting a long time to pull out the old incest marriage B.S. I wonder when you are gonna toss in a billy goat? :roll:

Jesus Christ keep up, married for parternal reasons only no sex, just to be able to take advantage of the benefits provided by the gov.
 
Not in most you can't and for sure not in mine. We welcome you to our church but you understand when gays engage in illicit sex its a mortal sin just like it is for straight people who do it. We are taught to love the sinner and hate the sin. I personally don't judge anyone though. God will do that on the day of judgment and I don't believe that day is far away.

90% of the post you have made in this thread have been a judgment on gay people. I bet you don't lie either, huh? :2razz:
 
You say but I say you can't compare a race and a class of people.............the race are born that way. they can't change.......a class of people can change and they do it all the time......that is the difference

Your discriminatory attitude can be changed!! Why would you not wish to love and accept all people? You are suppose to be a Christian but seem to lack everything Jesus taught:(
 
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