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Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

Navy Pride said:
If one person changed then any can and that means they are not born that way and can't change.
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What is possible for some is not possible for all. Plus as I mentioned their successes arnt really a change in orientation but a change in behavior.
 
Taylor said:
Nothing could be further from the truth. Men who have sex with men are more likely to get the disease from "dangerous" sexual behavior; they are more likely to spread the disease.

Much, much more likely.
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Ah, Taylor. Haven't seen you in a while. I see you still haven't remembered all the education I provided for you when you were here, last. Your comment above is inaccurate. They key is DANGEROUS BEHAVIOR. Sexual orientation does not cause this dangerous behavior. The spread is about the dangerous behavior. Got it?
 
Taylor said:
Nope. Men who have sex with men are much more likely to get, and spread the disease through "dangerous sexual behavior" than men who only have sex with women.

So you see, sexual orientation is very relevant.
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Not at all. If a heterosexual couple and a homosexual couple BOTH have dangerous sex, their likelihood of contracting AIDS is equivalent. You keep missing this point.
 
Omgitsme said:
What is possible for some is not possible for all. Plus as I mentioned their successes arnt really a change in orientation but a change in behavior.
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well you can call them a liar I won't do it.....they say they have changed and that is good enough for me. Not for you though because if its true then your whole theory is out the windows and gays are a class of people defined by their sexal orientation. those are the facts.
 
Navy Pride said:
well you can call them a liar I won't do it.....they say they have changed and that is good enough for me. Not for you though because if its true then your whole theory is out the windows and gays are a class of people defined by their sexal orientation. those are the facts.
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NP. I know straights who have changed to be gay. If your position is correct then, ALL sexual orientation is changeable, gay OR straight. That means that all sexual orientation is a choice... gay OR straight. Now, research demonstrates that all sexual orientation is likely caused by a combination of genetics, biology, hormones, and environment. The point is, you cannot separate homosexuality from heterosexuality. They are both types of a larger concept... sexual orientation. Whatever you attribute to one, you attribute to the other.
 
Navy Pride said:
CC it is spread that way now but it was not that way in the early eighties. The only people that were getting AIDS were gays with very few exceptions. That is why the closed the bath houses down in San Francisco...Anyone can catch it now but straight males are the least most not to get it because most straight males don't engage in anal sex.
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Straight married men are killing their wives with AIDS! Married women are one of the highest ranked that get it. And yes straight males do anal sex! Hetrocouples do anal all the time. Geezzee Dude!
 
Navy Pride said:
well you can call them a liar I won't do it.....they say they have changed and that is good enough for me. Not for you though because if its true then your whole theory is out the windows and gays are a class of people defined by their sexal orientation. those are the facts.
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Actually when they were asked they said that they felt their heterosexual relationships were different then other heterosexual relationships and that they would still be attracted to men if they let their mind go in that direction.

BTW what exactly is my theory and why would a very small percentage of people changing orientation make my theory false?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
Dude doesn't believe in it just like the president. Instead of campaigning against it or taking a stand against it, he says "let the peoples decide". For this you fault him. :shrug:
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Reverend... truthfully, this is a poor decision on his part. If he was elected to serve the people, and he is confident that the people will pass this on referendum, why would he veto it? His personal opinion on the matter is irrelevant. He was elected to serve the people, not himself. Why do you think he'd veto it, based on this?
 
Omgitsme said:
Actually when they were asked they said that they felt their heterosexual relationships were different then other heterosexual relationships and that they would still be attracted to men if they let their mind go in that direction.

BTW what exactly is my theory and why would a very small percentage of people changing orientation make my theory false?
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The ones I read about said they were gay and with much therapy they changed and have no gay thoughts at all. Most gay men are repulsed by women and can't even get and erection. These guys after therapy twere not only able to get and erection but were able to inpregnate their partner and have children..........
 
Navy Pride said:
The ones I read about said they were gay and with much therapy they changed and have no gay thoughts at all. Most gay men are repulsed by women and can't even get and erection. These guys after therapy twere not only able to get and erection but were able to inpregnate their partner and have children..........
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Where did you read that?

And knowing that many gay men do have sex with women either before they come out of the closet or when they are trying to have a baby I would say its pretty possible for a gay man to have sex with a woman.
 
Navy Pride said:
Because there have been many cases of Gays reverting to Straight I believe its a choice. There are many documented cases of Gays say they have changed, married and have had children and I am not the one to call them a liar.
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The cases I have saw in reguards to this are usually really religious males that are repressing the fact they are gay in order to fit back in with their religious flock. They are brainwashed and scared into thinking they are going to hell. I have no doubt these men are still gay but of religious fear are pretending to be straight to please their godhead and to be right w/their flock. It is very sad and cultish like in most of these cases:(
 
Kali said:
Straight married men are killing their wives with AIDS! Married women are one of the highest ranked that get it. And yes straight males do anal sex! Hetrocouples do anal all the time. Geezzee Dude!
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Boy Kali you use to be smarter then that.......You have really been drinking the koolaid.......Anyone that has anal sex outside of straight marriage can catch the AIDS virus but since that is the predominant way gays have sex and they are very promiscuous (gay bath houses) they are more apt to catch the virus
 
Omgitsme said:
Where did you read that?

And knowing that many gay men do have sex with women either before they come out of the closet or when they are trying to have a baby I would say its pretty possible for a gay man to have sex with a woman.
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I believe we call those men bi sexuals my left wing friend.
 
Navy Pride said:
Boy Kali you use to be smarter then that.......You have really been drinking the koolaid.......Anyone that has anal sex outside of straight marriage can catch the AIDS virus but since that is the predominant way gays have sex and they are very promiscuous (gay bath houses) they are more apt to catch the virus
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You are kind of right about the whole promiscuous thing. But thats just because they are men and not because they are gay.
 
Navy Pride said:
Boy Kali you use to be smarter then that.......You have really been drinking the koolaid.......Anyone that has anal sex outside of straight marriage can catch the AIDS virus but since that is the predominant way gays have sex and they are very promiscuous (gay bath houses) they are more apt to catch the virus
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There's nothing wrong with bath houses if people are practicing safe sex.
 
Navy Pride said:
I believe we call those men bi sexuals my left wing friend.
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Umm no. Ive known gay men who have had sex with women for multiple reasons and none of them were attracted to women.
 
Navy Pride said:
Boy Kali you use to be smarter then that.......You have really been drinking the koolaid.......Anyone that has anal sex outside of straight marriage can catch the AIDS virus but since that is the predominant way gays have sex and they are very promiscuous (gay bath houses) they are more apt to catch the virus
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So much wrong with this.

Any one who engages in any dangerous activity outside of marriage of any type can catch the AIDS virus. Anal sex is not the predominant way gays have sex. Can you show that gays are more promiscuous than other groups who are not married? Being gay does not make one more apt to contract AIDS. Come on NP, do a little research instead of repeating stupid crap.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
There's nothing wrong with bath houses if people are practicing safe sex.
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In the eighties prior to AIDS they were not doing that. do you have any idea how many cases of AIDS there could be in a 50 man daisy chain in each room and their are 20 rooms? That is why they closed them.
 
Navy Pride said:
In the eighties prior to AIDS they were not doing that. do you have any idea how many cases of AIDS there could be in a 50 man daisy chain in each room and their are 20 rooms? That is why they closed them.
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NP, your odd knowledge of gay sexual practices is hilarious. By the way, I know more gay people than most, and not a single one ever does anything like that.
 
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