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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's unconstitutional to deny people the right to their votes or force a state that issues marriage licenses (and marriage being silent in the Constitution) all in the name of something that isn't Constitutionally sound (forcing SSM on every state)
    You don't have a right to vote on my rights.

    States don't have a right to deny fundamental rights. Marriage is a fundamental right, says SCOTUS.

    Same-sex marriage isn't being forced on anyone. You have it backwards. I don't have to prove to you why I should have a right. You have to prove to me why I shouldn't.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Too bad for Christie, he had potential to bring the GOP out of the dark ages.

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    So what you're actually saying here is that gays can have gay marriage. They just can't call it that. That's some funny ****.
    Language and the definition of words has been and continues to be very important. Marriage is reserved for a man and a woman. Man and man, woman and woman, and any other combination that society deems acceptable now or in the future should not be defined or named "marriage". I've actually had this same view since I got here on DP.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    You know what's really ridiculous about all of this? When gay marriage is finally made constitutionally legal in all fifty states, literally nothing in the lives of those who opposed it will be affected at all.

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You know what's really ridiculous about all of this? When gay marriage is finally made constitutionally legal in all fifty states, literally nothing in the lives of those who opposed it will be affected at all.
    Probably true, though the number of gay divorces and divorce lawyers will rise. I don't have a problem with gay marriage, I have a problem with the terminology. If gay people want to mess up their lives and get married who am I to tell them they can't?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well the governor certainly has that ability. I don't know though, I don't really see why we waste so much energy on this topic.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Language and the definition of words has been and continues to be very important. Marriage is reserved for a man and a woman. Man and man, woman and woman, and any other combination that society deems acceptable now or in the future should not be defined or named "marriage". I've actually had this same view since I got here on DP.
    Why? Marriage is made up by society anyway, why shouldn't society be able to change it?
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

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    Why? Marriage is made up by society anyway, why shouldn't society be able to change it?
    I'm not arguing society cannot change the definition of words.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm not arguing society cannot change the definition of words.
    Then what's all the uproar about the definition of marriage? Makes no sense.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Probably true, though the number of gay divorces and divorce lawyers will rise.
    The nation's population will rise and the number of divorces and divorce lawyers will go up anyway.

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    I don't have a problem with gay marriage, I have a problem with the terminology.
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