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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I'm saying that this is not representing the people and the people's positions.

    If the people overwhelmingly support a particular position, a representative not assisting to legislate that position because his personal view oppose it, is not representing the people.
    And I disagree. I believe when you vote for someone to represent you you're voting them into the position to legislate and vote based on what they think is the best course of action. At times that may be counter to what you personally believe. However, I absolutely believe that a person can vote agains twhat hte public supposedly wants and still be "representing the people" because he's doing what he was elected to do....vote on what he thinks the best option is. If we were simply voting for the person who would agree with the public on everything we'd not need to vote for representitives, we'd just have laws passed based on opinion polls.

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    I will say this for Christie: he has been consistent in his position. He said quite clearly when he was running that he was opposed to gay marriage, and he was elected. I can't fault him for being consistent ... though I can fault him for being a bigot.

    By the same token, many conservatives attack Obama for signing health care reform into law when a majority opposed it. But he ran on a platform of health care reform, so I don't think conservatives can attack him for subverting the will of the people either. Doesn't mean they have to agree with the policy, but....
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Will you accept your grands if some of them are gay? The stats are probably that one of em may be gay.

    Never would happen. Did not bring them up that way..........Environment has a lot to do with it.........
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    Ummm you are the one who needs to read. If you look at the AIDS epidemic globally straight people were the ones who were spreading it. Keyword there is globally.
    I am not talking about globally I am talking about the USA.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Never would happen. Did not bring them up that way..........Environment has a lot to do with it.........
    I don't believe this is true.

    my mom was one of 13 kids. Her identical twin sister was (died a few years ago) a lesbian. They were typical twins - inseparable - so they were brought up in an identical environment

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It is mostly in the south where you would find people who disapprove of interracial marriage. You can deny all you want, but I know people who find interracial relationships disgusting. More than many would like to know. Some I am related to. And I know some of them would not mind at all making interracial relationships illegal again. It is the same thing, no matter how much you wish to deny it.

    It will be in my lifetime, likely in the next decade, that same sex marriage will become legal throughout the US. I have no doubt. My generation, which are in their 30s, are much more accepting of same sex relationships. And the generations after mine are even more okay with same sex marriage.
    Pa., Ohio, Indiana, Montana, SD, ND, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Idaho,(I could go on and on) are not in the South

    I will just say every Red state and a lot of blue ones not in the NE.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Pa., Ohio, Indiana, Montana, SD, ND, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Idaho,(I could go on and on) are not in the South
    They may as well be with the amount of hillbillies they have.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    What Navy and other hard lined social conservatives just don't get is that 20 years ago, gay marriage wasn't even talked about let alone put on the ballot. Time is against them all on this one and eventually gay marriage will pass across the majority of the states, if not the whole U.S. with a Supreme Court ruling.

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    They may as well be with the amount of hillbillies they have.
    To be pollitically correct, we prefer the term neanderthals.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I will say this for Christie: he has been consistent in his position. He said quite clearly when he was running that he was opposed to gay marriage, and he was elected. I can't fault him for being consistent ... though I can fault him for being a bigot.

    By the same token, many conservatives attack Obama for signing health care reform into law when a majority opposed it. But he ran on a platform of health care reform, so I don't think conservatives can attack him for subverting the will of the people either. Doesn't mean they have to agree with the policy, but....
    Why do you insist on calling people names who disagree with you. Why can't other people have a difference of opinion. I take back my apology to you. You lefties call us the intolerant one when in fact you are the intolerant ones..........
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