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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't agreee James, they can call it anything they want, just not marriage.
    So if I call cow **** a T-bone steak will you eat " T-bone steak" since your logic dictates that calling something by another name makes it different? These pro-gay marriage politicians masquerading as moderates are making suckers out traditional marriage supporters.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Discrimination against homosexuals, be it in the military, in marriage, or in any other walk of life, is disappearing. No matter how desperately some people fear the gay boogeyman, discrimination is contrary to the American spirit, and is unconstitutional. It doesn't matter what legislature does what, who votes for what, or who vetoes what. The constitution protects every single citizen from unjust discrimination.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    What makes you really believe that DADT being repealed has gone that bad? What specific event is it that should have it put back in place? Please, enlighten us all. After-allll, you are arguing this with people who actually know how the repeal has gone and know for a fact that it has been a complete non-issue. We had one person during the training mention berthing arrangements, and that was prior to the actual repeal. No one has mentioned it since except in joking. My husband is an MA, and there has been no issues come his way related to the repeal.
    Your husband is not and MA at the Naval Hospital Bremerton...........I watched a vote on the HOR where re instatement of DADT was soundly approved by Republicans and blue dog dems. They can't get it through the senate at the moment but that will change in November.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Discrimination against homosexuals, be it in the military, in marriage, or in any other walk of life, is disappearing. No matter how desperately some people fear the gay boogeyman, discrimination is contrary to the American spirit, and is unconstitutional. It doesn't matter what legislature does what, who votes for what, or who vetoes what. The constitution protects every single citizen from unjust discrimination.


    Did you read any posts in this thread my left wing friend?
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    as long as your side loses and its not called marriage that is all I care about
    So what you're actually saying here is that gays can have gay marriage. They just can't call it that. That's some funny ****.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So if I call cow **** a T-bone steak will you eat " T-bone steak" since your logic dictates that calling something by another name makes it different? These pro-gay marriage politicians masquerading as moderates are making suckers out traditional marriage supporters.

    That is my opinion. sorry if you don't agree call it domestic partnerships or what ever, just not marriage.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Your husband is not and MA at the Naval Hospital Bremerton...........I watched a vote on the HOR where re instatement of DADT was soundly approved by Republicans and blue dog dems. They can't get it through the senate at the moment but that will change in November.
    I'll remember to stop by there when I come up next month and ask them personally what they have seen since they apparently are the authority on problems despite not really having that big of a base they are responsible for.

    He is an MA at San Diego, including Balboa Naval Hospital. I'm pretty sure he would have info on any official problems this area has related to the repeal. Certainly a lot more than some corpsman's opinion on how well the repeal is going.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    So what you're actually saying here is that gays can have gay marriage. They just can't call it that. That's some funny ****.
    Whatever my left wing friend.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I'll remember to stop by there when I come up next month and ask them personally what they have seen since they apparently are the authority on problems despite not really having that big of a base they are responsible for.

    He is an MA at San Diego, including Balboa Naval Hospital. I'm pretty sure he would have info on any official problems this area has related to the repeal. Certainly a lot more than some corpsman's opinion on how well the repeal is going.

    All I can tell you is what they told me. Its PC on the record to say everything is fine but off the record its a different matter. we are getting way off topic though.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    All I can tell you is what they told me. Its PC on the record to say everything is fine. we are getting way off topic though.
    Sure.

    So, back to the representative republic you live in not working for you there. Apparently you would much rather have a tyranny of the majority, which is not what our founding fathers wanted, which is why we are not a direct democracy.

    Or maybe you only want direct democracy on those things you think the legislature gets wrong, despite the fact that polls have consistently shown that the majority wants same sex marriage to be legal?
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