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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    way to bring something of substance to the table.
    Better than brigning lies and bigotry.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    way to bring something of substance to the table.
    Way to avoid the argument.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, completely factual. Any post that implies, infers, or states that homosexuality is a mental disorder is reflective of the ignorance of the poster. Any post that implies, infers, or states that children do better with heterosexuals than homosexuals is reflective of the ignorance of the poster. Please educate yourself on these issues. Perhaps THEN your post might have some validity to be taken seriously.
    Fact: Human sexuality is directly related to and comes from the species level instinct to procreate and continue the species. That need for the species to continue and procreation being the only method to do so is the core of sexual desire and needs in humans.

    Fact: Homosexual conduct does not lead to procreation. If sexual desires, as stated above, derive from an instinct to continue the species through procreation and Homosexuality does not does not lead to the possibility of procreation, then Homosexuality is a deviation from the normal sexual instinct.

    Any deviation from the normal conduct instilled by an instinct as opposed to one instilled by the enviroment at the species level, not necessarily the tribal or persnal level, is a mental disorder. Since homosexuality is a deviation of the species survival instinct to procreate and acts contrary to that instinct, then it is obviously then a mental disorder. Homosexuality denies the species as a whole any advantages or useful mutations that would normally be gained and passed on thus negatively impacting the evolution and genetic advancements of the species as a whole. Also, if practiced and adopted as normal by a large enough segment of the species, then the species would also start failing because it did not have enough children to continue and grow. Since it has a negative survival impact at the species level, then it is very much an aberration and since it is in the mind, it is a mental disorder.

    As to the impact of being raised by homsexual couples, that totally depends on the homosexual couple, but any law cannot take in the vast amount of deviations and special cases when it is written and must thus be written based upon common and worse case factors.

    Worse case scenerio, as was in the news a short time ago, the courts were trying to determine if an Adolescent should have the right to undergo a sex change. In that particular case, a male child raised by a Lesbian couple was the one seeking the change. Considering the common man hating attitudes displayed by a large number of lesbians, it is really not that hard for some to see why an adelescent male raised in such an eviroment might think that being male is evil and wrong and therefore hate his sex. The fact that this arose is not suprising, the fact that it does not arise on a very frequent basis is what is suprising. A developing child who is male, raised in an household of two women who continuously dsiparage males can only lead to the child believing mommy hates men who are also male and I am male, so mommy must hate me and because I don't want mommy to hate me, I shouldn't be male.

    There may be studies I have not seen that actually chart self-loathing, depression, suicide amongst children raised by a homosexual couple. It would indeed be interesting how the rates amoungst children raised by a homosexual couple of the opposite sex compare to normal society. But, just like Clinton killed a program to determine the use of illegally obtained guns vs legally obtained ones (he was anti-gun, so anthing that might potentially show that crimanals illegally obtain guns at any significant level would undermine his political stance), such a government sponsored study is not likely to happen when one of the two factions in our government spends so much time, effort and money trying to prove homosexuality is normal. The potential risk to their political stance is too great and of course getting the necessary data voluntarily in any significant amount is almost impossible as the vast majority of those children are now also working towards proving the normallacy of homosexuality.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Way to avoid the argument.
    It just bugs me when a guy brings nothing to the table and suck up to a moderator.........I probably should not have responded to him
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Better than brigning lies and bigotry.
    Here we go with the inasulting again. I guess when it comes to the left that will never change when they are losing the debate.

    Oh and use your spell checker......thanks
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So when you said this:



    You were blatantly wrong you now admit.
    Yeah your right but like I said it was much more prevalent by sex............Happy now?
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    What does AIDs have to do with same sex marriage?
    Not much but a lot of guys that want to marry probably have AIDS
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Fact: Human sexuality is directly related to and comes from the species level instinct to procreate and continue the species. That need for the species to continue and procreation being the only method to do so is the core of sexual desire and needs in humans.

    Fact: Homosexual conduct does not lead to procreation. If sexual desires, as stated above, derive from an instinct to continue the species through procreation and Homosexuality does not does not lead to the possibility of procreation, then Homosexuality is a deviation from the normal sexual instinct.
    Problem 1: homosexual activity is not the same thing as homosexuality. Homosexuals can and do engage in heterosexual activity, to the point where 1/3 of all lesbians and 1/4 of gay men have children.

    Any deviation from the normal conduct instilled by an instinct as opposed to one instilled by the enviroment at the species level, not necessarily the tribal or persnal level, is a mental disorder. Since homosexuality is a deviation of the species survival instinct to procreate and acts contrary to that instinct, then it is obviously then a mental disorder. Homosexuality denies the species as a whole any advantages or useful mutations that would normally be gained and passed on thus negatively impacting the evolution and genetic advancements of the species as a whole. Also, if practiced and adopted as normal by a large enough segment of the species, then the species would also start failing because it did not have enough children to continue and grow. Since it has a negative survival impact at the species level, then it is very much an aberration and since it is in the mind, it is a mental disorder.

    As to the impact of being raised by homsexual couples, that totally depends on the homosexual couple, but any law cannot take in the vast amount of deviations and special cases when it is written and must thus be written based upon common and worse case factors.
    Problem 2: Your definition of mental disorder is inaccurate as the term is used by professionals. For something to be a mental disorder it has to cause "distress or disability". Therefore, by the acepted usage of the term mental disorder, homosexuality is not one.

    Problem 3: Species do not have a survival instinct. Individuals do.

    Problem 4: Evolution can and does account for the possibility of homosexuality as a survival trait for genes.



    Worse case scenerio, as was in the news a short time ago, the courts were trying to determine if an Adolescent should have the right to undergo a sex change. In that particular case, a male child raised by a Lesbian couple was the one seeking the change. Considering the common man hating attitudes displayed by a large number of lesbians, it is really not that hard for some to see why an adelescent male raised in such an eviroment might think that being male is evil and wrong and therefore hate his sex. The fact that this arose is not suprising, the fact that it does not arise on a very frequent basis is what is suprising. A developing child who is male, raised in an household of two women who continuously dsiparage males can only lead to the child believing mommy hates men who are also male and I am male, so mommy must hate me and because I don't want mommy to hate me, I shouldn't be male.
    Problem 5: You have no ****ing clue what attitudes most lesbians have. None. You are painfully ****ing ignorant on the topic.

    There may be studies I have not seen that actually chart self-loathing, depression, suicide amongst children raised by a homosexual couple. It would indeed be interesting how the rates amoungst children raised by a homosexual couple of the opposite sex compare to normal society. But, just like Clinton killed a program to determine the use of illegally obtained guns vs legally obtained ones (he was anti-gun, so anthing that might potentially show that crimanals illegally obtain guns at any significant level would undermine his political stance), such a government sponsored study is not likely to happen when one of the two factions in our government spends so much time, effort and money trying to prove homosexuality is normal. The potential risk to their political stance is too great and of course getting the necessary data voluntarily in any significant amount is almost impossible as the vast majority of those children are now also working towards proving the normallacy of homosexuality.
    Problem 6: Many studies have been done on the outcome of children raised by gays. Those studies tell us that children raised by gays do just as well as children who are not raised by gays. More work needs to be done on the subject, and is being done.
    We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It just bugs me when a guy brings nothing to the table and suck up to a moderator.........I probably should not have responded to him
    You probably should have responded to my counterpoint which he quoted but you ran away from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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