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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It depends how you look at it CC As I just posted AIDS started in this country in the gay community probably in the bath houses of the peoples republic of SF.....That is a fact and I did not make it up...........No matter how much the gay community wants as to forget that fact we won't..........Its to close to home for some people...........
    Actually, it is widely thought that AIDS was introduced to the United States through a singular immigrant from Haiti.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It depends how you look at it CC As I just posted AIDS started in this country in the gay community probably in the bath houses of the peoples republic of SF.....That is a fact and I did not make it up...........No matter how much the gay community wants as to forget that fact we won't..........Its to close to home for some people...........
    NP... I've said this to you dozens of times. The spread of AIDS is caused by dangerous sexual practices or IV drug abuse. The sexual orientation of the people who spread AIDS is IRRELEVANT to it's spread. No matter how many times you blame AIDS on gays, I will continue to demonstrate that you are logically and factually WRONG. Now, since I've told you this plenty of times, and you still refuse to accept these facts, I hold no allusions that you will accept them now. This is more for the unsuspecting poster who really doesn't know... so that they will understand the facts of this issue. And the facts are... AIDS is not a gay disease or caused OR SPREAD by homosexuality. It is spread by dangerous and unprotected sex and IV drug use (needle sharing) regardless of one's sexuality.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If it's overturned hopefully there will be a constitutional amendment banning it.
    What do you have against gays?
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    What do you have against gays?
    Absolutly nothing. I just enjoy the drama. It's like hoping there will be a 6th season of Braking Bad. Minorities exist for my amusement.

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Absolutly nothing. I just enjoy the drama. It's like hoping there will be a 6th season of Braking Bad. Minorities exist for my amusement.
    That's disturbing.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    You all do realize his position is that the people should decide and he wants to put it on the ballot this November, and knows it will likely pass, That said, the democrat legislatures timing on this, isn't trying to help gay couples more than it's trying to help themselves...
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    You all do realize his position is that the people should decide and he wants to put it on the ballot this November, and knows it will likely pass, That said, the democrat legislatures timing on this, isn't trying to help gay couples more than it's trying to help themselves...
    Sounds to me like he's just using the ballot initiative as an excuse to duck the issue. Does he not understand that we have a representative form of government?

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I live in NJ, he really doesn't agree with gay marriage for real. It's not posturing....
    I believe you. He seems like a very genuine homophobe to me as well .

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sounds to me like he's just using the ballot initiative as an excuse to duck the issue.

    That would be the case, but he's maintained that position even while campaigning, stating that it should be brought to a referendum, note the timing of this thing. tell me who again is using the issue for political gain.




    Does he not understand that we have a representative form of government?

    Referendum votes are used all the time in a representative republic, and often there is 2-5 on a NJ ballot each election. I for one think the referendum of this issue is truly the right move as it lets the people decide.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I believe you. He seems like a very genuine homophobe to me as well .


    Obama holds the same issue. "marriage is between a man and a woman".... Now please call Obama a homophobe, thanks.
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