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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You call it gay marriage.... if you REALLY thought it was "marriage" you wouldn't need to say "gay" before it... clearly you have issues with it as well.
    Only as a debate topic in which gay people getting married is the subject of the discussion, much as in the reported study on the trend of people from different races getting married. I certainly don't refer to Mark and Jeff as "that nice gay married couple," or Lisa and Bob (assume they're different races) as "that nice interracially married couple." Are you saying you talk like that?

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why is it your business when a gay couple tries to adopt?
    Because a gay couple cannot produce their own child due to a choice they made. I think its the governments job to protect those that can't protect themselves ie a fetus or orphans. We, as a society, make the point all the time that a fatherless or motherless child usually ends up worse than a child with both. Well, which one does a gay couple provide?
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Because a gay couple cannot produce their own child due to a choice they made. I think its the governments job to protect those that can't protect themselves ie a fetus or orphans. We, as a society, make the point all the time that a fatherless or motherless child usually ends up worse than a child with both. Well, which one does a gay couple provide?
    The ability to procreate is irrelevant when it comes to the ability to raise a child. All research demonstrates this. A child who grows up in a two parent household, REGARDLESS of the sexual orientation of the parents or whether the two parents are the opposite or the same sex, do better than children who grow up in single parent households. Whether the parents are both gay or both straight has no bearing on how the child does.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The ability to procreate is irrelevant when it comes to the ability to raise a child. All research demonstrates this. A child who grows up in a two parent household, REGARDLESS of the sexual orientation of the parents or whether the two parents are the opposite or the same sex, do better than children who grow up in single parent households. Whether the parents are both gay or both straight has no bearing on how the child does.
    I believe it does, so, we disagree.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I believe it does, so, we disagree.
    What evidence do you base your belief on?
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    What evidence do you base your belief on?
    I'm a Christian, so, the Bible.
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I'm a Christian, so, the Bible.
    Where in the Bible does it say that children are not raised as well by gay couples? I'm pretty religious and read the Bible every day, and I don't recall any passage like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Because a gay couple cannot produce their own child due to a choice they made. I think its the governments job to protect those that can't protect themselves ie a fetus or orphans. We, as a society, make the point all the time that a fatherless or motherless child usually ends up worse than a child with both. Well, which one does a gay couple provide?
    A gay couple raise children just as well as a straight couple. The reason that children of single parent families come out worse isnt because they are motherless or fatherless. Its because the parent doesnt have as much time or resources to devote to raising the child.

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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Omgitsme View Post
    A gay couple raise children just as well as a straight couple. The reason that children of single parent families come out worse isnt because they are motherless or fatherless. Its because the parent doesnt have as much time or resources to devote to raising the child.
    Wouldn't someone raised by a gay couple be without a mother or father?
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    Re: Chris Christie set to veto gay marriage bill

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Where in the Bible does it say that children are not raised as well by gay couples? I'm pretty religious and read the Bible every day, and I don't recall any passage like that.
    Seriously? If the Bible says being gay is wrong, wouldn't it be assumed that that same gay couple that is wrong shouldn't raise a kid? The equivalent would be the Bible saying its wrong to steal but its okay to use the item you stole. Its inter-related.
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