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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Do you think that contraception kills babies really?
    No, but you get the point. They don't have a say in the abortion argument, but I'd bet Carolyn wouldn't speak to that if the discussion turned there.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, but you get the point. They don't have a say in the abortion argument, but I'd bet Carolyn wouldn't speak to that if the discussion turned there.
    What babies can't even talk much less the unborn. Not to mention all humans were at one time one cell so humans are well represented in the debate on abortion. Women should be represented in issues that directly relate to women.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The hearing is about whether or not Obama is offending religion, not women.
    I can't believe the thread went farther than this, frankly! The issue has nothing to do with women. It's about a core constitutional freedom, period!

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I can't believe the thread went farther than this, frankly! The issue has nothing to do with women. It's about a core constitutional freedom, period!
    So does that mean Mormon men can start marrying several teenage wives again?
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So does that mean Mormon men can start marrying several teenage wives again?
    Can muslims honor kill thier daughters? Can Rastafarians give their kids drugs?

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Can muslims honor kill thier daughters? Can Rastafarians give their kids drugs?
    The GOP says it's a matter of personal conscience.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Can muslims honor kill thier daughters?
    Yes, because the killing of an individual is the exact same as a church not paying for an individuals birth control. Well done.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Yes, because the killing of an individual is the exact same as a church not paying for an individuals birth control. Well done.
    No not the exact same its an analogy, both are the state getting involved in religion. Also, birth control is prescribed for more than simply preventing birth. It has legitimate medical purposes to do with health. Government get involved with religion. Can't let your kid die because you don't believe in the Dr. or any number of things. The Catholic church has been in bed with the government in regards to health care for a very long time. They take government money in payment. They need to provide services in accordance with federal law.

    Also, women should be represented in discussions that effect them.
    Last edited by kenvin; 02-17-12 at 07:24 PM.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    They have to pay for it out of pocket - so the access could be restricted due to monetary restrictions.
    They are not restricting access simply because they do not pay for the service or cover the service. The service is just as available as it was before and their act to not change it does not mean they are restricting access.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    No not the exact same its an analogy, both are the state getting involved in religion. Also, birth control is prescribed for more than simply preventing birth. It has legitimate medical purposes to do with health. Government get involved with religion. Can't let your kid die because you don't believe in the Dr. or any number of things. The Catholic church has been in bed with the government in regards to health care for a very long time. They take government money in payment. They need to provide services in accordance with federal law.
    Not a good analogy. Actually, quite a bad one. One is the state protecting the rights of the person that would be killed. The other is protecting the rights to freedom of religion. Having free birth control is not a right that I can find in the consitution. So saying a church does not have to provide free birth control is not abridging anyone's rights.

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