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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nah, it isn't...Tell me, what 'access' exactly was restricted in terms of contraception before this?

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    They have to pay for it out of pocket - so the access could be restricted due to monetary restrictions.
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Do any of the genuis glitterati in here still really think this is about contraception at all? Cause I got news for everyone....It isn't.


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    It's about the Catholic Church's objection to contraception and their expectation of getting special treatments from the government.
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    So should we start asking kindergarteners to voice their opinions on Superintendent candidates?
    Should we start asking steal workers to voice their opinions on what color to paint play grounds?

    This hearing isn't about women's rights.
    Why would you think women only need to be there for women's rights hearing? Are there no women who are religious? Don't you think religious issues affect women?
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post

    This hearing isn't about women's rights.
    It was about creating a faux controversy to hang on Obama. And then hang him in Nov.

    Issa is such a prick. He's an embarrassment, and he's on his way out.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    I am so glad we agree that women should have been represented in the discussion that most certainly effected them.

    So, you have no intention of answering the question posed to you. I thought not...Your portion of the debate is now effectively moot. Thanks for playing.


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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It was about creating a faux controversy to hang on Obama. And then hang him in Nov.

    Issa is such a prick. He's an embarrassment, and he's on his way out.
    Your racist language is not appreciated.


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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Would they have complained if the male witnesses had advocated for women's rights? Is this just manufactured outrage over an issue that was already pretty damn stupid to start with?
    No, it's not manufactured outrage.

    The issue is women getting access to birth control. And in regards to this issue, they are interviewing religious leaders.

    Which is like when Congress or the President wants to pass regulations on how government and charities interact to provide services to the people, they decide to get the testimony of comedians on how to do so.

    EDIT: Unless what you are alluding to is the manufactured outrage of the religious leaders. In which case you would be right.
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Emotional redirect because the position of the President is untenable. Mission accomplished.
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    you're seriously implying that men are completely incapable of representing women on a discussion of whether or not the Obama administration overstepped its bounds regarding a new privelege for women? Seems kind of sexist to me.
    The men who Issa chose? you betcha!

    Men in general? Nope, but that is not what this is about. Issa went out of his way to deny women access to testify.

    On top of this, he is wasting tax payer money to promote religion on your dime in your legislative house and all just because he does not like that Obama is in the White House and forcing discriminating organisations to stop discriminating.
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Emotional redirect because the position of the President is untenable. Mission accomplished.
    I think that's pretty much it. This isn't about birth control. The issue is wether a religious organization that does not approve of birth control should be required to pay for birth control. religious liberty.

    If an employee disagrees with the church's stand, they can get a different job - just like liberals often say if someone doesn't want to be a member of a union they can be something other than a teacher.

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