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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    On a bit of a tangent, Stewart also questioned the Catholic Church's support of health insurance plans that cover Viagra: "How is it that women can't get their pill and men can get their pill?" In footage from a 2000 interview, a spokesperson for the National Conference of Catholic Bishops explained that ďViagra actually answers a medical problem. ... Contraception is a choice that somebody will make, but it doesn't answer a particular healthcare need.Ē

    Stewart was not convinced by the distinction. "So the Catholic Church says a[n erection] is a need, but not getting pregnant is more of a want?"
    Do you think Stewart realizes that's not really what they said, or is he as clueless as the audience that hes trying to fool?

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes, and thank you for the list...Let's take a look at what you listed...

    Ok, After looking up some of the less common reasons you listed here, in every case the pill is not the first line treatment of ANY of these, nor is ANY of these life threatening to the point of requiring the pill to be mandated for free.

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    Endometriosis: (These are not serious?) complications of endometriosis include:

    Long-term (chronic) pelvic pain that interferes with social and work activities

    Large cysts in the pelvis (called endometriomas) that may break open (rupture)

    In a few cases, endometriosis implants may cause blockages of the gastrointestinal or urinary tracts. This is rare.

    Very rarely, cancer may develop in the areas of endometriosis after menopause.

    Endometriosis - PubMed Health

    Polycyctis Ovary Syndrome: (These are not serious?) Increased risk of endometrial cancer

    Infertility (early treatment of polycystic ovary disease can help prevent infertility or increase the chance of having a healthy pregnancy)

    Obesity-related (BMI over 30 and waist circumferance greater than 35) conditions, such as high blood pressure, heart problems, and diabetes

    Possible increased risk of breast cancer
    Polycystic ovary syndrome - PubMed Health

    Amenorrhea: (These are not serious?) Infertility. If you don't ovulate and have menstrual periods, you can't become pregnant.
    Osteoporosis. If your amenorrhea is caused by low estrogen levels, you may also be at risk of osteoporosis ó a weakening of your bones
    Amenorrhea: Complications - MayoClinic.com

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Aren't they typically not-for-profits?
    Mega churches mean big business - CNN

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
    --Randolph J. Dworkin

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Endometriosis: (These are not serious?) complications of endometriosis include:

    Long-term (chronic) pelvic pain that interferes with social and work activities

    Large cysts in the pelvis (called endometriomas) that may break open (rupture)

    In a few cases, endometriosis implants may cause blockages of the gastrointestinal or urinary tracts. This is rare.

    Very rarely, cancer may develop in the areas of endometriosis after menopause.

    Endometriosis - PubMed Health

    Polycyctis Ovary Syndrome: (These are not serious?) Increased risk of endometrial cancer

    Infertility (early treatment of polycystic ovary disease can help prevent infertility or increase the chance of having a healthy pregnancy)

    Obesity-related (BMI over 30 and waist circumferance greater than 35) conditions, such as high blood pressure, heart problems, and diabetes

    Possible increased risk of breast cancer
    Polycystic ovary syndrome - PubMed Health

    Amenorrhea: (These are not serious?) Infertility. If you don't ovulate and have menstrual periods, you can't become pregnant.
    Osteoporosis. If your amenorrhea is caused by low estrogen levels, you may also be at risk of osteoporosis — a weakening of your bones
    Amenorrhea: Complications - MayoClinic.com

    Can you show what the primary treatments for these problems are? Also, I don't see any of what you listed that would require BC pills as a life saving measure.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post

    These are not the Catholic Church.


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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Can you show what the primary treatments for these problems are? Also, I don't see any of what you listed that would require BC pills as a life saving measure.

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    Every person responds differently to different treatments. BC pills can control blood pressure and other chronic conditions. They help prevent cancer. I think these are lifesaving measures.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Do you think Stewart realizes that's not really what they said, or is he as clueless as the audience that hes trying to fool?
    Not what who said?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The problem is that the government will be telling religious people that they MUST pay for something that is abhorrant to their beliefs.
    No, they pay for insurance. Insurance for people who may or may not share their beliefs. It's really a silly issue. They pay for a lot of things that abhorrent to them, and pay people who do things that are abhorent to them. Their logic is sadly lacking.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Aren't they typically not-for-profits?
    Typically, but not entirely. And not for profits, oddly enough, often make a lot of money.

    But that doesn't change that the are business, employing people who are not Catholic.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This matters not to liberals, it is about the force of their ideals.


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    We,re not deciding for individuals, rather selectively I might add, what they can have and can't.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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