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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    I answered your questions about the medical uses of Birth Control as you asked. What do you think about it?

    Yes, and thank you for the list...Let's take a look at what you listed...

    Endometriosis
    Polycystic Ovary Syndrome
    Amenorrhea from low weight, stress, excessive exercise, or damage to the ovaries from radiation or chemotherapy
    Irregular menstrual periods
    menstrual cramps
    acne
    PMS

    Ok, After looking up some of the less common reasons you listed here, in every case the pill is not the first line treatment of ANY of these, nor is ANY of these life threatening to the point of requiring the pill to be mandated for free.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Do you think that contraception kills babies really?
    The morning after pill does.
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do realize j that the church is telling non-Catholics, not working at a church, what their insurance company can and can't be provide for them. You fail to see the contradiction in your position. You're not alone.

    Not true. The Church is only concerned in what they are being forced to provide against their conscience.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Can muslims honor kill thier daughters? Can Rastafarians give their kids drugs?
    Of course not because it violated the basic right to life of the daughters. However, Catholics and their institutions not paying for birth control denies no one any basic rights. Nice strawman, though. But straw IS highly flammable.
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Well Perhaps the government should stop reinbursing Catholic hospitals for indigent care, remove them from Federal insurance coverage of all levels. We wouldn't want them to get too entangled and violate their rights.
    Yeah, that is such a good idea. NOT! All this would do is deny people who need life-saving coverage.
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not true. The Church is only concerned in what they are being forced to provide against their conscience.

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    Not true. As a church, for church people, they don't have to. But they stepped outside of church, built other institutions, empluyed others, became a business, and those places are not exempt. The church does not have to provide clergy with this. but once they step outside the church, they become not a bigger church, but a business.

    Also, they should worry more about why they can't trust Catholics not use contraceptions. Really, if they aren't going to sue them, why worry about it?

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Well forcing tax payers to fund a religion that treats women less than equally is also not good. I think defund and unentangle government from Catholic hospitals and doctors. No insurance or indigent reimbursment. The government should only fund secular medical facilities.
    You are not funding the religion, they are being compensated for services rendered. Catholic hospitals perform a public service and is a benefit to society. It would be far more efficient for the governemnt to reimburse Catholic hospitals than to build them from scratch. So, you can continue your rhetoric, but putting it into practice would have a serious NEGATIVE consequence on society.
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do realize j that the church is telling non-Catholics, not working at a church, what their insurance company can and can't be provide for them. You fail to see the contradiction in your position. You're not alone.
    The problem is that the government will be telling religious people that they MUST pay for something that is abhorrant to their beliefs.
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not true. As a church, for church people, they don't have to. But they stepped outside of church, built other institutions, empluyed others, became a business, and those places are not exempt. The church does not have to provide clergy with this. but once they step outside the church, they become not a bigger church, but a business.

    Also, they should worry more about why they can't trust Catholics not use contraceptions. Really, if they aren't going to sue them, why worry about it?
    Aren't they typically not-for-profits?
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Aren't they typically not-for-profits?

    This matters not to liberals, it is about the force of their ideals.


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