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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

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    Are contraceptions available now for medical uses? BTW, what are the medical uses of the pill outside of regulating some women's periods?

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    You know what? Before I had a baby even I didn't understand how much birth control means to women. I knew it was important, appreciated that I had it... but I had no idea. And I realize there are anti-feminist mothers out there who are against birth control but at least they have some way to relate to what a pregnancy does to a woman's life. Men, especially men who pretend to know what's best for us, do NOT.

    The fact that no women were on this panel of witnesses is ridiculous.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

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    Are contraceptions available now for medical uses? BTW, what are the medical uses of the pill outside of regulating some women's periods?

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    Virtually all reproductive disorders aside from infertility are now treated with birth control. It's the first line for most gynecological disorders. I'm not saying I agree with this, I'm just letting you know that the pill has major uses.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Virtually all reproductive disorders aside from infertility are now treated with birth control. It's the first line for most gynecological disorders. I'm not saying I agree with this, I'm just letting you know that the pill has major uses.

    Ok, but like I asked, are these pills not available on the market now? And for those women whom may not have the cost, it would seem that in many cases it is already covered, or extremely low cost. Like Birmingham NY, PP for example gives out the day after pill 'free of charge' as "Emergency contraception"....So you tell me what access is restricted now without forcing the Church to provide this?


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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Would they have complained if the male witnesses had advocated for women's rights? Is this just manufactured outrage over an issue that was already pretty damn stupid to start with?
    Not really. Women actually should be involved.

    Here's something I think some will enjoy:

    On Monday night, the trend continued with a "Daily Show" segment mocking Rep. Darrell Issa's male-dominated congressional hearing on the controversial subject.

    Stewart pointed out the unfortunate optics of the hearing, which featured one entirely male panel of conservative clergy members, and not a single pro-birth-control female. "While no ladies actually ever spoke on behalf of ladies, some of these fellas were wearing gowns, so that's something," he said.

    The "hyperbolic" panelists did little to quell Stewart's concerns: Republican Rep. Tim Walberg invoked Stalin, while Dr. C. Ben Mitchell of Union University claimed that the mandate was equivalent to "nothing less than the rape of the soul."

    On a bit of a tangent, Stewart also questioned the Catholic Church's support of health insurance plans that cover Viagra: "How is it that women can't get their pill and men can get their pill?" In footage from a 2000 interview, a spokesperson for the National Conference of Catholic Bishops explained that ďViagra actually answers a medical problem. ... Contraception is a choice that somebody will make, but it doesn't answer a particular healthcare need.Ē

    Stewart was not convinced by the distinction. "So the Catholic Church says a[n erection] is a need, but not getting pregnant is more of a want?"

    Late Night: Jon Stewart mocks congressional birth control hearings - latimes.com

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, but like I asked, are these pills not available on the market now? And for those women whom may not have the cost, it would seem that in many cases it is already covered, or extremely low cost. Like Birmingham NY, PP for example gives out the day after pill 'free of charge' as "Emergency contraception"....So you tell me what access is restricted now without forcing the Church to provide this?


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    The pills that are used for medical purposes are treated like any other medical prescription. If you are covered buy insurance you probably have a co-pay, if not you are stuck with the bill..... unless you are covered by certain religious organizations who state that using birth control prevents a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. In this case it is a sin and the organization does not pay for BC. According to some strict Catholics it is a sin if the semen and sex are not intended for procreation and the BC stops that from happening.

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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    OMG! Jon Stewart is not happy with the make up of a panel, and their "optics".... Heaven forbid.

    Lord knows that Stewart has the religious bona fides to tell the Catholic Church what they should accept.

    Look, The demo's had the chance to have who they wanted on that panel, and at the last minute their person to appear failed to post....


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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    OMG! Jon Stewart is not happy with the make up of a panel, and their "optics".... Heaven forbid.

    Lord knows that Stewart has the religious bona fides to tell the Catholic Church what they should accept.

    Look, The demo's had the chance to have who they wanted on that panel, and at the last minute their person to appear failed to post....


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    I answered your questions about the medical uses of Birth Control as you asked. What do you think about it?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    The pills that are used for medical purposes are treated like any other medical prescription. If you are covered buy insurance you probably have a co-pay, if not you are stuck with the bill.....
    Yep. That is true, it is also true for blood pressure meds, Cardiac meds, psyc meds, and every other medication....

    unless you are covered by certain religious organizations who state that using birth control prevents a fertilized egg from implanting in the uterus. In this case it is a sin and the organization does not pay for BC. According to some strict Catholics it is a sin if the semen and sex are not intended for procreation and the BC stops that from happening.
    And you don't agree with their doctrine, so it is clear here that by God, you are going to force them to do it anyway....Like I said, this isn't about BC.


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    Re: Angry lawmakers challenge lineup at hearing: 'Where are the women?'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    OMG! Jon Stewart is not happy with the make up of a panel, and their "optics".... Heaven forbid.

    Lord knows that Stewart has the religious bona fides to tell the Catholic Church what they should accept.

    Look, The demo's had the chance to have who they wanted on that panel, and at the last minute their person to appear failed to post....


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    Do realize j that the church is telling non-Catholics, not working at a church, what their insurance company can and can't be provide for them. You fail to see the contradiction in your position. You're not alone.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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