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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    Maybe it's time for society to realize that "minors as young as 14" are old enough to choose to drink in the first place.
    While I could live with this, the fact is all age limits for whatever it might be are pointless and have really no reason to exist in the first place.

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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    I would be opposed to that. They just have not experienced enough yet. Plenty of time to still be kids until they have to take on the responsibilities of adults...which includes making decisions they just aren't capable of making yet because they ARE just kids. 18? Then they are fully cooked by then. Let 'em loose.
    Little circular, ain't it? How much experience could they have had, living at home?

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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    While I could live with this, the fact is all age limits for whatever it might be are pointless and have really no reason to exist in the first place.
    There is an important moral and societal distinction between children who require supervision and guidance from their parents, and adults who can be expected to function independently. There must be some point before which they are legally regarded as children and after which they are legally recognized as adults; we use a calendar age because it's simple and non-discriminatory. I would prefer some kind of formalized rite of passage-- some test of ability that marks them as capable of adulthood-- but the law is based on calendar age.

    All I'm saying is that the calendar age we are using is wrong and several years later than it ought to be, and that we are doing young men and women a disservice by artificially prolonging their childhood.

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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    If you can vote or enlist in the military, you can drink. Our age limit on alcohol consumption is draconian.
    Actually there's nothing draconian about it. The legal age was 18 when I was 18. It varied a little state to state. And of course there was no such thing as a legal drinking age prior to prohibition.
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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Difference is, if it weren't for the requirement that enlistees have a high school diploma, I'd support lowering the age to join the military, too.
    Actually you can enlist at 17 years of age.But form what I understand you can't be deployed till you turn 18 and you still have to get your diploma or GED.
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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    Rather than discuss one extreme fringe opinion I'll note that I do not agree with our current laws. While I do not think it's a positive thing, 18 year olds should be able to legally drink. As far as the law is concerned, they are adults in all other aspects.

    Locally there is one area that makes some good money off this law. There is a local night spot that everyone knows allows those under 21 to drink. The city makes no attempt to stop them but they are quick at charging people for underage drinking.

    But anyway, the article says that 99% supports the stories. The reporter expects that nobody is ever going to be upset over a story she does? Perhaps she should find another line of work.

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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Maybe it's time for society to realize that "minors as young as 14" are old enough to choose to drink in the first place.
    I think 14 is a bit too young. The legal drinking age for beer and wine here in Switzerland is 16 and for stronger liquors it's 18. I'm cool with that.
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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    The parents come first... above the law, and above the news reporters. They set the rules for their kids, and nobody should dispute them.
    I could not disagree more. Bad parents don't need to be given free reign to let their children destroy their lives before they are even given a chance.

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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Yeah, I do. Fourteen and fifteen years old is old enough to be an adult-- old enough to work, old enough to have children, old enough to fight and die. If their parents don't want them drinking at home, that's fine, but it's their parents' responsibility to enforce it. They should have been drinking already, as children, to learn that there's no "mystique" to it and that it doesn't make them grown-up or cool.
    Not in this country it isn't.

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    Re: Reporter faces backlash for teen drinking story

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I could not disagree more. Bad parents don't need to be given free reign to let their children destroy their lives before they are even given a chance.
    this is scary. i agree with you

    the parents should prevent their kids from engaging in illegal behavior in a very public place
    if they want to expose their own kids to liquor in their own homes/other controlled environments, not a problem. just do not allow it to become the public's problem to deal with

    with both of my (now of age) kids i provided them beer, wine and liquor growing up
    they could not drive after drinking and they could not drink outside the home - at least not the alcohol i purchased
    unlike many of their friends, who came from alcohol free homes, my kids did not go stupid when exposed to the freedoms of college. that was the intent of gradually exposing them to drink so that they would (hopefully) recognize that moderation is the key
    to those complaining parents i would say that the blame is on you, for not controlling the environment in which your kid imbibes. until they become 21, that is the parents' responsibility ... and they now face the consequences of their irresponsibility. no surprise, they would prefer to blame and threaten the reporter for the resultant outcome
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