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Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

Hatuey said:
Green or blue? Nah son. We gotta draw the line somewhere. To hell with blue people.
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Sam Worthington disagrees

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Jerry said:
Historically, interracial marriages ran a higher risk of divorce than single race marriages due to irreconcilable cultural differences. I'm interested to know if mixed-race friends and/or the children of mixed marriages being mediators is making a statistically significant positive impact on the divorce rate.
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Evidence that this is the primary cause? I wouldn't be surprised if the social stigma of dating across racial lines played a role as well.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Evidence that this is the primary cause? I wouldn't be surprised if the social stigma of dating across racial lines played a role as well.
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if the interracial divorce rate were higher than the divorce rate by those of the same race, it is not a far reach to conclude that the interracial aspect had a bearing on the higher divorce rates
 
justabubba said:
if the interracial divorce rate were higher than the divorce rate by those of the same race, it is not a far reach to conclude that the interracial aspect had a bearing on the higher divorce rates
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Well, no ****. But that doesn't say anything about the cause, whether it is inherent in the nature of the relationship, or whether it is caused by outside exogenous factors like I just stated.

Would you naturally attribute all racial disparities in employment statistics to outright racism?

IOW, correlation =/= causation.
 
Jerry said:
Historically, interracial marriages ran a higher risk of divorce than single race marriages due to irreconcilable cultural differences. I'm interested to know if mixed-race friends and/or the children of mixed marriages being mediators is making a statistically significant positive impact on the divorce rate.
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I think people just stopped staring and pointing in disgust everytime an IR couple went out in public. It's so common now that I can't see it even having an effect on IR marriages now! Of course if one family is racist, then there may be some problems, but other than that, I think it's a non issue.
 
haha that reminds me Your Star; MaleShep and Liara made Yahoo's top 10 gaming romances.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Well, no ****. But that doesn't say anything about the cause, whether it is inherent in the nature of the relationship, or whether it is caused by outside exogenous factors like I just stated.

Would you naturally attribute all racial disparities in employment statistics to outright racism?

IOW, correlation =/= causation.
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the delta between the two differing divorce rates could be found attributable to the cultural differences of the interracial couples
what else would explain it?
 
StillBallin75 said:
haha that reminds me Your Star; MaleShep and Liara made Yahoo's top 10 gaming romances.
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Abomination! FemShep and Liara make a much cuter couple!

Besides FemShep is the only real Sheperd anyway. ;)
 
Jerry said:
How many of those interacial marriages end in divorce?
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Hint: not every ****ing thread is about divorce. Just because you are obsessed with the topic does not mean any one else cares.
 
justabubba said:
the delta between the two differing divorce rates could be found attributable to the cultural differences of the interracial couples
what else would explain it?
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I just listed one potential one in post #55.

Many potential variables could explain it! How do you know that is the primary cause? There are many potential third variables!

When it comes to intra-racial marriage, blacks have higher divorce rates than whites have higher divorce rates than Asians. Does this mean that ALL of the disparity is because blacks just inherently suck at marriage because of black culture? Of course not! Many other variables exist.
 
For Jerry:

Interracial marriage in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A 2008 study by Jenifer L. Bratter and Rosalind B. King conducted on behalf of the Education Resources Information Center examined whether crossing racial boundaries increased the risk of divorce.[9] Using the 2002 National Survey of Family Growth (Cycle VI), the likelihood of divorce for interracial couples to that of same-race couples was compared. Comparisons across marriage cohorts revealed that, overall, interracial couples have higher rates of divorce, particularly for those that married during the late 1980s.[9] The authors found that gender plays a significant role in interracial divorce dynamics: According to the adjusted models predicting divorce as of the 10th year of marriage, interracial marriages that are the most vulnerable involve White females and non-White males (with the exception of White females/Hispanic White males) relative to White/White couples.[9] White wife/Black husband marriages are twice as likely to divorce by the 10th year of marriage compared to White/White couples, while White wife/Asian husband marriages are 59% more likely to end in divorce compared to White/White unions.[9] Conversely, White men/non-White women couples show either very little or no differences in divorce rates.[9] Asian wife/White husband marriages show only 4% greater likelihood of divorce by the 10th year of marriage than White/White couples.[9] In the case of Black wife/White husband marriages, divorce by the 10th year of marriage is 44% less likely than among White/White unions.[9] Intermarriages that did not cross a racial barrier, which was the case for White/Hispanic White couples, showed statistically similar likelihoods of divorcing as White/White marriages.[9]
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Doesn't really state anything about causation though.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I just listed one potential one in post #55.

Many potential variables could explain it! How do you know that is the primary cause? There are many potential third variables!

When it comes to intra-racial marriage, blacks have higher divorce rates than whites have higher divorce rates than Asians. Does this mean that ALL of the disparity is because blacks just inherently suck at marriage because of black culture? Of course not! Many other variables exist.
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the DIFFERENCE (the delta) in divorce rates would be attributable to the cultural differences between the interracial couples
the balance would be attributable to the things common in causing all divorces
 
justabubba said:
the DIFFERENCE (the delta) in divorce rates would be attributable to the cultural differences between the interracial couples
the balance would be attributable to the things common in causing all divorces
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All this talk about divorce rates makes it seem like you'd think they had a different marriage than two other people. People are getting divorces for the same reasons regardless of the races between the two. Cheating, arguing, fighting ect are going to cause problems between two people. Don't be so focused on race. If two people get divorced its not because one of them was black or white or asian or any other race it's because one of them is pissing off the other. Or they are both pissing each other off.
 
justabubba said:
the DIFFERENCE (the delta) in divorce rates would be attributable to the cultural differences between the interracial couples
the balance would be attributable to the things common in causing all divorces
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Bubba, you're still indulging in the correlation = causation fallacy. Just because interracial couples divorce at a higher rate does not mean that those couples divorce at a higher rate ONLY BECAUSE they are interracial. While I'm sure some of the statistical difference can be attributable to cultural differences, you have not shown me that there is something inherent about interracial marriages that accounts for the whole of the disparity, rather than exogenous and third variables.

How then do you account for the fact (stated above in post #65) that black wife/white husband marriages are 44% LESS likely than white/white married couples to divorce by the 10th year of marriage?
 
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Jerry said:
How many of those interacial marriages end in divorce?
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Are you saying that certain marriages are predisposed to divorce due to race?
 
StillBallin75 said:
Bubba, you're still indulging in the correlation = causation fallacy. Just because interracial couples divorce at a higher rate does not mean that those couples divorce at a higher rate ONLY BECAUSE they are interracial. While I'm sure some of the statistical difference can be attributable to cultural differences, you have not shown me that there is something inherent about interracial marriages that accounts for the whole of the disparity, rather than exogenous and third variables.

How then do you account for the fact (stated above in post #65) that black wife/white husband marriages are 44% LESS likely than white/white married couples to divorce by the 10th year of marriage?
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you insist the differences say nothing about causation
i believe it does
that substantial variance in divorce rates where black/asian men married white women is quite likely attributable to the cultural differences of the couple. what else would explain it
similarly, the positive difference in divorce rates with white husband black wife indicates that their racial difference is also responsible for their superior rates of sound marriages
again, what else explains it
 
herenow1 said:
I think people just stopped staring and pointing in disgust everytime an IR couple went out in public. It's so common now that I can't see it even having an effect on IR marriages now! Of course if one family is racist, then there may be some problems, but other than that, I think it's a non issue.
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This is something I see quite often in SD with white/native couples (as a carpenter, I get into quite a few homes) A white person typically has the idea that the couple will settle down and raise kids in their own home, while the native will typically want to live with family or have family move in.

I'm interested to see data which establishes OP's claim that mixed race friends and children are making a positive difference in interracial marriage.
 
justabubba said:
you insist the differences say nothing about causation
i believe it doesthat substantial variance in divorce rates where black/asian men married white women is quite likely attributable to the cultural differences of the couple. what else would explain it
similarly, the positive difference in divorce rates with white husband black wife indicates that their racial difference is also responsible for their superior rates of sound marriages
again, what else explains it
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Therein lies the flaw in your reasoning. Correlation says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about causation BY DEFINITION.

There are many other potential factory, socially. Age. Class. Like I said, the social stigma of interracial dating, which has only begun to decrease within the past few decades.
 
Jerry said:
I'm saying I would like to see data backing up OPs claims.
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The OP doesn't really "claim" anything other than that notions of race are changing as more interracial folks are out there, and that race relations are improving. It makes no value judgment as to whether or not the trend is a good or bad thing, so I don't know what "claims" you're referring to.
 
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Daktoria said:
Miscegenation is a tough issue, but it just reinforces why freedom of association is so important.



What?

Look. Love has an emotional element to it, and maybe someone just doesn't feel attracted to people who look different or come from a different background.

Put simply, having an emotional racial preference does not make someone a racist, nor are people obligated to justify their racial feelings to others anymore than why they like strawberry ice cream.



OK, the article is clearly trying to spur fearmongering. MSNBC loves to do this with its Rockefeller Republican/civic nationalist persona.

300million/6 = 50 million Hispanics.

In 2008, We had about 11 million illegal immigrants of which 81% (8.91m) are Hispanic.

That means 17.8% of Hispanics are illegal.

Look. I won't deny that illegal immigration is a problem, but the goal of this article is to obviously make people panic and fall for being called racists.

Upholding due process would fix all of this. This is especially important for the working class which doesn't need "liberals" hiding behind multiculturalism to break down the labor market.

Obviously, marriage and the labor market are connected in how children with stable parents can compete better and have a better shot at social mobility.

It's no surprise, then, that "liberals" have been suggesting a breakdown of the traditional family unit is OK as well. They DON'T WANT social mobility. They're elitists who want to preserve their social status while others envy, and scrounge to become, them.
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Working class is a communist term, stop using it.
 
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