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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I think people just stopped staring and pointing in disgust everytime an IR couple went out in public. It's so common now that I can't see it even having an effect on IR marriages now! Of course if one family is racist, then there may be some problems, but other than that, I think it's a non issue.
    This is something I see quite often in SD with white/native couples (as a carpenter, I get into quite a few homes) A white person typically has the idea that the couple will settle down and raise kids in their own home, while the native will typically want to live with family or have family move in.

    I'm interested to see data which establishes OP's claim that mixed race friends and children are making a positive difference in interracial marriage.

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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Connery View Post
    Are you saying that certain marriages are predisposed to divorce due to race?
    I'm saying I would like to see data backing up OPs claims.

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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you insist the differences say nothing about causation
    i believe it does
    that substantial variance in divorce rates where black/asian men married white women is quite likely attributable to the cultural differences of the couple. what else would explain it
    similarly, the positive difference in divorce rates with white husband black wife indicates that their racial difference is also responsible for their superior rates of sound marriages
    again, what else explains it
    Therein lies the flaw in your reasoning. Correlation says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about causation BY DEFINITION.

    There are many other potential factory, socially. Age. Class. Like I said, the social stigma of interracial dating, which has only begun to decrease within the past few decades.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm saying I would like to see data backing up OPs claims.
    The OP doesn't really "claim" anything other than that notions of race are changing as more interracial folks are out there, and that race relations are improving. It makes no value judgment as to whether or not the trend is a good or bad thing, so I don't know what "claims" you're referring to.
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    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Miscegenation is a tough issue, but it just reinforces why freedom of association is so important.



    What?

    Look. Love has an emotional element to it, and maybe someone just doesn't feel attracted to people who look different or come from a different background.

    Put simply, having an emotional racial preference does not make someone a racist, nor are people obligated to justify their racial feelings to others anymore than why they like strawberry ice cream.



    OK, the article is clearly trying to spur fearmongering. MSNBC loves to do this with its Rockefeller Republican/civic nationalist persona.

    300million/6 = 50 million Hispanics.

    In 2008, We had about 11 million illegal immigrants of which 81% (8.91m) are Hispanic.

    That means 17.8% of Hispanics are illegal.

    Look. I won't deny that illegal immigration is a problem, but the goal of this article is to obviously make people panic and fall for being called racists.

    Upholding due process would fix all of this. This is especially important for the working class which doesn't need "liberals" hiding behind multiculturalism to break down the labor market.

    Obviously, marriage and the labor market are connected in how children with stable parents can compete better and have a better shot at social mobility.

    It's no surprise, then, that "liberals" have been suggesting a breakdown of the traditional family unit is OK as well. They DON'T WANT social mobility. They're elitists who want to preserve their social status while others envy, and scrounge to become, them.
    Working class is a communist term, stop using it.
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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Therein lies the flaw in your reasoning. Correlation says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about causation BY DEFINITION.

    There are many other potential factory, socially. Age. Class. Like I said, the social stigma of interracial dating, which has only begun to decrease within the past few decades.
    no, the delta in the divorce rates is found to exist when comparing interracial couples compared to those who are same race
    there is NOTHING else which explains such a difference other than the racial differences
    the data tells us that is so
    you introduce other factors that have not been found to have any bearing
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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Working class is a communist term, stop using it.
    so what are your thoughts on inter-racial marriages?

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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no, the delta in the divorce rates is found to exist when comparing interracial couples compared to those who are same race
    there is NOTHING else which explains such a difference other than the racial differences
    the data tells us that is so

    you introduce other factors that have not been found to have any bearing
    Show me where exactly the data say this.

    I did not say that I KNOW for a fact that all these other factors play a role. All I am doing is challenging YOU to prove YOUR contention that what YOU say is the cause, is the main cause.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    She's practically a white woman... You need a Lauryn Hill son.
    Sounds like someone isn't black enough.
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    Re: Interracial marriage in US hits new high: 1 in 12

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    The OP doesn't really "claim" anything other than that notions of race are changing as more interracial folks are out there, and that race relations are improving. It makes no value judgment as to whether or not the trend is a good or bad thing, so I don't know what "claims" you're referring to.
    That's another question I was waiting to ask: Are there actually more interracial couples, or are more existing interracial couples choosing to marry?

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