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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the applicant pool in comparison to the workforce is a textbook definition of a quota. I linked the definition to you, you can pretend to be ignorant on this but it is ignorance.
    I did use the definition you linked to. Definition #1: the share or proportional part of a total that is required from, or is due or belongs to, a particular district, state, person, group, etc.. This is the definition that people refer to when they talk about quota systems in discussions about AA.

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, I say one particular action does not solve the problem. See, once again instead of having read what I wrote, you made things up. Read my words and stop spinning them.
    what i read is that you oppose the very actions intended to eliminate the bias you acknowledge continues to exist
    i am quite certain that is a correct assessment of your position
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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, I say one particular action does not solve the problem. See, once again instead of having read what I wrote, you made things up. Read my words and stop spinning them.
    What action do you feel does not solve the problem? Or did I miss your answer in an earlier post?
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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I have said nothing about political correctness. And your link did express doubt. But I asked you a question: However, for clarity, lets say there is a bases for it. What do you think that means in the real world?

    Can you answer?
    These are not isolated findings. There is very little to dispute them except the 'culture' difernces in IQ testing which is a serious stretch. To your question, I think that it addresses the futility of affirmative action. It may help some, but the overwhelming problem of racial inequality will not go away.
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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    These are not isolated findings. There is very little to dispute them except the 'culture' difernces in IQ testing which is a serious stretch. to you question, I think that it addresses the futility of affirmative action. It may help some, but the overwhelming problem of racial inequality will not go away.
    You're still deflecting.

    However, for clarity, lets say there is a bases for it. What do you think that means in the real world?

    Can you answer?

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    These are not isolated findings. There is very little to dispute them except the 'culture' difernces in IQ testing which is a serious stretch. to you question, I think that it addresses the futility of affirmative action. It may help some, but the overwhelming problem of racial inequality will not go away.
    You do know that this is not related to AA in any way right? AA does not give jobs to the unqualified.
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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I did use the definition you linked to. Definition #1: the share or proportional part of a total that is required from, or is due or belongs to, a particular district, state, person, group, etc.. This is the definition that people refer to when they talk about quota systems in discussions about AA.
    right, so quotas are used to determine who is underrepresented. we agree

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    You do know that this is not related to AA in any way right? AA does not give jobs to the unqualified.
    No, it probably doesn't. What is does give is jobs to the less qualified. I would not let my son be operated on by a AA surgeon. You may do as you please.

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    right, so quotas are used to determine who is underrepresented. we agree
    If you use the second definition, sure. However, I fail to see why this matters which is why I use the first definition. The entire admissions system is a quota system. So your original post:

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    affirmative action and other quota based system of policement are the only tools available to determine if "rights" are being violated.
    is just saying that you are against college admissions and hiring which doesn't make sense.

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    I haven't read the thread so I am probably repeating comments already made by others. Affirmative Action, when it was first implemented, was absolutely necessary to give discriminated minorities a foothold in the jobs market and educational opportunities that they had previously been denied. I was very much in favor of it. However, it's time has now gone. We have women and minorities in every facet of society, including in boardrooms, state and national elected office, and everything in between.

    Now, however, it remains entrenched in our educational system. Blacks and Hispanics from middle-class or wealthy homes are given admission and scholarship preference over White and Asian students from low-income homes. This is bass-ackwards. Educational preferences should be based on economic, not racial issues only.

    I hope that SCOTUS agrees and recinds this disingenuous and unfair block to low-income non-minority students.

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