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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then how are the biases overcome
    Part of the answer is here in the thread:

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    Affirmative action was always just treating the symptom of the larger problem of poverty and underfunded school systems in minority neighborhoods.
    Working to eliminate the causes of the biases, primarily by improving poor schools and working to encourage people to actually attend those schools.
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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Part of the answer is here in the thread:



    Working to eliminate the causes of the biases, primarily by improving poor schools and working to encourage people to actually attend those schools.
    you propose to end the bias by not doing anything to prohibit the ability to exhibit bias
    interesting, again
    and still wrong
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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Just curious, but do you guys come across longtime unemployed minorities on a regular basis and think to yourself, "Gee, I wonder why THAT person doesn't have a really good job"?

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Excuse me, if you're implying that certain races are behind in education because of "nature", then you need to read a book.
    That is what I said, there is no matter of implication.

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    so far you have only said how we don't calculate under-representation.

    now explain how we do it, since you are positive I have it wrong.

    how do we calculate that a group is underrepresented. explain this to me
    Exactly, I've explained that quotas do not determine under representation. Quotas are what people illegally enact AFTER they have calculated under-representation. For example, a college might illegally decide that Asians are required make up 10% of our college population. In other words, quotas are requirements.

    Under-representation is determined by looking at the percentage of a population in the workforce or education system and then evaluating whether or not your college or workplace accurate represents that percentage. If your college/workplace has a smaller percentage, then that population is under-represented. You can handle this under-representation is several ways. You can do nothing, you can increase recruitment, consider race as a secondary factor in admissions or you can illegally set quotas among other things.

    As you can see, quotas come after determining under-representation - illegally.

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    That is what I said, there is no matter of implication.
    Okay, just so you know, there isn't any scientific validity to that claim.

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you propose to end the bias by not doing anything to prohibit the ability to exhibit bias
    interesting, again
    and still wrong
    Yes, you are right, that is wrong. That is not at all what I have said. Read my words. Don't try and stick your spin into them, but read what they actually say. Then actually address what I say.
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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Excuse me, if you're implying that certain races are behind in education because of "nature", then you need to read a book.
    maybe nature is a poor choice, but slavery turned natural selection on it's heels. The criteria for a slave to excel was totally different then the criteria for a free person to excel. It will take generations to undue the damage we did, and quota based systems will never be a part of the solution, that is just feel good nonsense.

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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Okay, just so you know, there isn't any scientific validity to that claim.
    There is a lot.
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    Re: Affirmative Action - Could Justice Alito's Vote Change the Game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, you are right, that is wrong. That is not at all what I have said. Read my words. Don't try and stick your spin into them, but read what they actually say. Then actually address what I say.
    you acknowledge bias still exists yet you want to end the actions which are intended to eliminate such bias
    i understand you
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