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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    all medical treatments are elective. None is required if you don't ask for it. Asking for the procedure binds you to accept the method of which the procedure is delivered.
    There is no reason to apply a government mandate to put the woman through additional mental anguish in order to perform an abortion. It is unnecessary pain and suffering being applied to the woman who wants/needs an abortion. It is completely unecessary and this government mandate is being used force a religious agenda.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    No, its a government regulation when one asks for a procedure. Similar to getting a driver's license, you accept the rules and regulations of the contract you've asked to be a party to.
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    The ultrasound legislation would constitute an unprecedented government mandate to insert vaginal ultrasonic probes into women as part of a state-ordered effort to dissuade them from terminating pregnancies, legislative opponents noted.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    There is no reason to apply a government mandate to put the woman through additional mental anguish in order to perform an abortion. It is unnecessary pain and suffering being applied to the woman who wants/needs an abortion. It is completely unecessary and this government mandate is being used force a religious agenda.
    Nothing is requiring the woman to view the ultrasound. The ultrasound essentially confirms that there is a vital fetus to be aborted, and if the woman chooses to, she can view it prior to having the abortion.

    Its rather unobtrusive, from a mandated portion of the procedure. This makes the woman sit through an ultrasound, and doesn't have to look at anything, then sign a piece of paper that says I was offered the option to view it.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    ...Its rather unobtrusive, from a mandated portion of the procedure.
    ask a woman, if she would find a government-mandated vaginal probe, to be unobtrusive.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Nothing is requiring the woman to view the ultrasound. The ultrasound essentially confirms that there is a vital fetus to be aborted, and if the woman chooses to, she can view it prior to having the abortion.

    Its rather unobtrusive, from a mandated portion of the procedure. This makes the woman sit through an ultrasound, and doesn't have to look at anything, then sign a piece of paper that says I was offered the option to view it.
    It is unnecessary. It does not improve the procedure. It is a hack trick.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

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    ask a woman, if she would find a government-mandated vaginal probe, to be unobtrusive.
    Ask anyone who has a procedure done at a hospital. The procedure, and all related procedures to be performed before and after said procedure, has been regulated by the government.

    We've granted the government the ability to do this.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    It is unnecessary. It does not improve the procedure. It is a hack trick.

    From an insurance and malpractice standpoint, its one more check in a doctor's favor against possible litigation. I can assure you that abortion providers in Virginia aren't going to complain about that.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Ask anyone who has a procedure done at a hospital. The procedure, and all related procedures to be performed before and after said procedure, has been regulated by the government.

    We've granted the government the ability to do this.
    WE..didn't do this.

    the government of VA did this on their own, and they will regret it in November...or maybe sooner.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Ask anyone who has a procedure done at a hospital. The procedure, and all related procedures to be performed before and after said procedure, has been regulated by the government.

    We've granted the government the ability to do this.
    The government is taking away a liberty. Because they have the power to do so does not make it right.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    From an insurance and malpractice standpoint, its one more check in a doctor's favor against possible litigation. I can assure you that abortion providers in Virginia aren't going to complain about that.
    Assure away.
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