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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yep, thought so. Nothing more than an emotional response, which is what this law is trying to do. It's trying to force women, who like I said are most likely emotionally unstable to have an emotional response so that the outcome is what they want.

    The government should not be doing this.
    What you have to understand is that Conservatives care passionately about clumps of cells that are potential babies. Babies themselves they don't give a rats ass about (see Alabama's effort to stop feeding babies of supposed illegal aliens - an effort supported by every conservative on this forum).

    Starving babies to death is OK. But by God we're going to make sure they get born!
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    What you have to understand is that Conservatives care passionately about clumps of cells that are potential babies. Babies themselves they don't give a rats ass about (see Alabama's effort to stop feeding babies of supposed illegal aliens).
    It's worse than that. They want power over women because they're feeling more and more powerless as women begin to climb in both political and financial power.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You'd be surprised.
    I doubt it.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Someone's just a weee bit overblown here in their attempts to create an argument for discussion.

    No, overblown is to make a woman have something shoved up her vagina to make a political statement.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Right, because most women getting abortions don't understand what's going to happen.
    Ultrasound viewing significantly reduces the likelihood of the mother choosing abortion.
    One study conducted in a pregnancy resource center in the U.S. reported that women planning to abort their child were 2 - 3 1/2 times more likely to keep their children after viewing their ultrasounds.
    A study conducted in Oregon concluded that women at high risk of having abortion who viewed ultrasounds were only 30 percent likely to continue with the procedure, as compared to the 75 percent of women who did not view ultrasounds.
    One study reported that women at risk for abortion who viewed ultrasounds and received counseling were 60 percent more likely to choose life than those who had counseling without ultrasounds.
    Eight in ten pregnancy resource centers report that "abortion-minded" women decide to keep their babies after seeing ultrasound images.
    According to an executive director of an Iowa pregnancy resource center, 90 percent of women who see their baby by ultrasound choose life.
    One pregnancy resource center director in Baton Rouge states that "Ninety-eight percent of women who have ultrasounds choose to carry to term."
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    Now I'll be the first to admit, it's a biased site, but I went looking for conflicting studies and found... none.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    No, overblown is to make a woman have something shoved up her vagina to make a political statement.
    The problem for you is, this isn't about making a political statement, it's about saving lives. That's why you fail so in this thread.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The problem for you is, this isn't about making a political statement, it's about saving lives. That's why you fail so in this thread.
    how will shoving a tool up a woman's vagina, so it can take a picture of a 3-day old Zygote, gonna change anything?

    she'll still have the abortion, but at least they got to have their way with her first.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    including ones that violate a woman's basic liberties?

    Killing a unborn child is not a basic liberty.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The problem for you is, this isn't about making a political statement, it's about saving lives. That's why you fail so in this thread.
    No it isn't about saving lives, it's about stupid ****ing conservatives trying to degrade women to score political points. **** any conservative that supports this and hopefully the same gets done to force them to have something shoved up their asses for an elective procedure.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Killing a unborn child is not a basic liberty.
    In their body, it is. Come up with a procedure to remove the baby from the woman's body an incubate it. Otherwise anyone against abortion can **** off.

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