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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I love it when Conservatives defend & support government tyranny, when it suits them...
    on occasion it does. we call these "issues of the commons" and they include things like the inherent mandate of government to protect our right to life.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    If I was in support of this, my utopia would include the use of government to rape women with mandates while they are trying to get an abortion, then I would criminalize abortions (it is what I really wanted anyway), and then I would outlaw contriception. Every sperm is sacred.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    fixed that for you
    what is an "abortiofascient"?

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yes, of course I would. Even a life under tyranny is better than no life at all.....
    wrong....so very...very wrong.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Talk about a false choice. Not one of those programs does jack for children. All they do is employ useless government workers and fatten the wallets of bureaucrats.

    They dupe people like you in to believing they're "helping kids" and "helping the poor" and all that... but what have those programs done over the past 50 years? Schools still suck, and people are still poor. Only thing that happens is your money is going straight in to someone else's wallet.

    Duped.
    Really? Education funding doesn't help children? Health insurance doesn't help children? School lunches don't help children?

    Amazing how the laws of cause and effect don't function in conservative world.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Ultrasound Policy

    Now I'll be the first to admit, it's a biased site, but I went looking for conflicting studies and found... none.
    What your study doesn't touch on is the suffering those women endured, having authority figures telling her over and over again what choice to make. That's called coercion. There are no conflicting studies because browbeating people works. Apply enough pressure to these women, telling them that they are wrong, over and over, and forcing an already emotionally unstable situation even farther and making it all the more painful, and they will cave. Emotional torture works. No one is disputing that.

    The government has no business torturing Americans, physically or emotionally.
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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    fixed that for you
    Do you really see no difference between the liberty of a person to control their own mind and body, and the unfettered ability to control money?
    Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Really? Education funding doesn't help children? Health insurance doesn't help children? School lunches don't help children?

    Amazing how the laws of cause and effect don't function in conservative world.
    Right. The Department of Education has never educated anyone. The Department of Energy has never produced one drop of oil. The FDA has never invented one drug. These agencies are bureaucratic and only serve to regulate.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    wrong....so very...very wrong.
    It's noble to give up your own life for a cause you believe in. It's shameful to ask someone else to do so while you won't.

    That would be like me sending you to die on the front lines for my freedom, and I stand back with a basket of nachos rooting you on.

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    Re: Va. House GOP muscles through abortion curbs

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Wow, overboard much? Most choose life after seeing their unborn and understanding there are better options then death as a solution. Read back a few post I provided this information.
    There were 2 studies sited in the article I read that state Little Evidence Sonograms Change Minds:

    The study, published in 2009 in the European Journal of Contraception and Reproductive Health Care, found that, when given the option, 72 percent of women chose to view the sonogram image. Of those, 86 percent said it was a positive experience. None changed their mind about the abortion.

    In another study, this one published in 2009 in the journal Contraception, Wiebe analyzed how many women chose to look at the embryonic or fetal tissue removed during an abortion. Only about 28 percent of women were interested – "they're curious," Wiebe said – but of those, 83 percent said that viewing the embryo or fetus did not make the process more emotionally difficult.
    http://www.livescience.com/12886-abo...m-research.htm
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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