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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm suspicious of everything. I don't think Obama wants to go to war with Iran...so...will Iran "provoke an attack?" You know, one where we say they attacked us? What's that' called? A Black Flag operation? If he just decides to deploy U.S. troops, I think that would cost him the election...unless they "attacked" us first.

    My scheming little mind also tells me that the UN won't act...because Russia or China will veto any attempt at that. Then, my scheming little mind tells me that we'll be negotiating behind the scenes with both of these countries to get their approval to a UN force. Hang on to your wallets, taxpayers!! (Oops. Too late.)
    False Flag. Yeah, I mentioned it earlier in post number 8. I am not one to quote myself, but in this one instance it's easier to just cut and paste from 8 above.

    Call me paranoid and as a guy once said, "I know I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough?". I do think a false flag attack is possible. I don't trust the government but we have a history of false flag attacks leading us into a war. A false flag attack would seal the deal for Obama's re-election. It would galvanize the public and divert their attention away from being raped and robbed by the the powers that be. In the short term it would improve the economy. I'm not saying a false flag will happen but I am saying I do not trust my government.
    It seems we agree. As horrible as it might be to believe our government would do such a thing, we have a long history of our government false flagging the U.S. into wars.










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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Absolutely I agree that it is myopic!

    Then Iran should stop the threatening

    I say to Iran : Shut up or put up with the consequences!
    Israel began threatening Iran in 2002.. Ariel Sharon crowed to the press that as soon as Bush finished in Iraq, "they" would bomb Iran.

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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    .................
    My scheming little mind also tells me that the UN won't act...because Russia or China will veto any attempt at that. Then, my scheming little mind tells me that we'll be negotiating behind the scenes with both of these countries to get their approval to a UN force......


    Sadly Maggie I don't see any powder blue berets soldiers there any time soon

    I don't think it is going to go that way.

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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Israel began threatening Iran in 2002.. Ariel Sharon crowed to the press that as soon as Bush finished in Iraq, "they" would bomb Iran.

    .... so then we are pretty close and ............ it's showtime folks

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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    This is just another example of that cowboy George Bush and his Gunboat Diplomacy....Ooops, thats right, Obama is president now, let me amend that.... This is just another example of Obama showing bold and decisive leadership in the face of international danger.
    I'm not a big Obama fan, but unless you can point out where the Obama administration has spearheaded the ground invasion of not one but two countries, the comparision is nothing more than partisian hackery. The problem of Iran is very real and a concern to more than just the USA and Israel. Many ME countries are upset by the direction Iran is taking. Let's discuss the problem at hand. Political potshots don't add much to the conversation.

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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    .... so then we are pretty close and ............ it's showtime folks
    If Iran retaliates by bombing Jubail, Dhahran, Abqaiq and Ras Tanura, thousands of Americans will be killed and we will have a world wide economic meltdown.

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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    If Iran retaliates by bombing Jubail, Dhahran, Abqaiq and Ras Tanura, thousands of Americans will be killed and we will have a world wide economic meltdown.
    so are you saying that the world has to put up with all the drama queen, hissy fits the Iranian Regime is having? plus their worldwide terror? plus on top of all, having a nuclear bomb?


    Do not think so.

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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    so are you saying that the world has to put up with all the drama queen, hissy fits the Iranian Regime is having? plus their worldwide terror? plus on top of all, having a nuclear bomb?


    Do not think so.
    I think there are circumstances and events that make NO sense.

    For instance.. India decides to buy Iranian oil and gas (because they needit) and decide in turn to sell food to Iran..

    Here comes "Iranian" bombers in India.. so India decides to rethink their commitment with Iran .. and Saudi Arabia offers to meet India's fuel needs by the end of the same day?????

    Whatever is really going on is completely out of our hands and has taken on a life of its own.......

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/warfar...a-georgia.html

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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post

    Whatever is really going on is completely out of our hands and has taken on a life of its own.......

    Beyond a doubt! you can say that again.

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    Re: US carrier crosses Hormuz against Iran threats

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Beyond a doubt! you can say that again.
    I hate it, Mya... because the consequences suck .. Its lose lose for everybody..

    And, I sure don't envy Obama...

    The only possibility I can even conceive of is that the US take an unprecedented position and guarantee Iran's security in return for a completely open inspection and assurances of no nuclear weapons development.

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