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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Article can be found here (Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God)

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    To sum up my views on this, I would like to say that I would have no problem if something were to "accidentally" happen to these imbeciles. Like, if they were "accidentally" beaten till they were black and blue or "accidentally" sent to Gitmo and subject to psychological torture. If either of those things happened, I'd be hard-pressed to find a problem with it.
    To go back to the OP, if God's love feels like being ass-raped, it's no wonder there are atheists. These priests need to "feel God's love" in prison, IMO.


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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I don't know if I believe it.

    Why is it always priests and boys, never girls? Why ALWAYS only homosexual rape of children?

    Srly, what is the psychology?
    There's nothing to believe. The sole intent of this thread is to bash the Catholic Church. It's a hate-thread, a forum for people to spew their hate at the Church.

    This kind of stuff happens so rarely, but when it does it gets blown way out of proportion and the haters have a field day.

    In this case there is nothing new to even report... they're just re-hashing an old case with some evocative details to stir up the hate further.

    Here's an interesting story on a man who was struck by lightning twice: Man survives being hit by lightning TWICE in remarkable CCTV footage | Mail Online

    Maybe we can spend the next couple hours bashing Zeus for that.
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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I simply cannot understand why ANYONE defends this
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    Go ahead and debase this post as well, attacking the source...but seriously, why?
    Nobody is defending pedophilia, rape or a cover up of either one. That's just how you willfully misinterpret people's posts.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    That argument sounds reasonable until one considers the cover ups. It's too wide spread to be ignored.
    There are over 1 billion Catholics in the world. Not even close to that many people were involved in the scandal. It makes zero sense to condemn an entire institution for negative behavior of some of its leaders. Let's say even 100 million people were responsible for the scandal. You end up blaming 900 million people for something they had no part of. Ridiculous.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I kid you not...if you decide to call me ignorant again, I may begin to get unpleasant...warnings or not.

    I have posted multiple documents refuting your claim of Catholic Normalcy in this regard, you dispute the information as is your perogative. But I have yet to get personal, regardless of the continuous opportunity to do so.
    You haven't refuted anything. I just posted two articles that confirm my position. Your posts are a bastion of misinformation that tie pedophilia to celibacy and attempt to represent the Catholic Church as unique in terms of pedophilia. Your claims are just not true. It's simple and nothing you post will change that.

    It's telling that your post focused on a single word in my post ("ignorance") and ignored the articles and arguments I posted. I'll take that as an understanding that you're wrong and a deflection in order to avoid admitting it.

    If your actions are the Catholic Way...you have created a beautiful context to play on.
    I'm not Catholic. I just like the truth regardless of whether or not I like the Church.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    There are over 1 billion Catholics in the world. Not even close to that many people were involved in the scandal. It makes zero sense to condemn an entire institution for negative behavior of some of its leaders. Let's say even 100 million people were responsible for the scandal. You end up blaming 900 million people for something they had no part of. Ridiculous.
    But isn't it reasonable to condemn the structure and leadership of the institution, and the elements of the institution that lead to this? The secrecy, greed, and power grabbing by the church certainly contributed to this problem. The pope himself issued the order to cover up instances of priests raping children. The prohibition against priests engaging in consensual adult sex could assuredly have contributed.

    It's absurd to hold your Catholic neighbor responsible. It is correct to hold Catholic structure and dogma responsible.
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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    But isn't it reasonable to condemn the structure and leadership of the institution, and the elements of the institution that lead to this? The secrecy, greed, and power grabbing by the church certainly contributed to this problem. The pope himself issued the order to cover up instances of priests raping children. The prohibition against priests engaging in consensual adult sex could assuredly have contributed.

    It's absurd to hold your Catholic neighbor responsible. It is correct to hold Catholic structure and dogma responsible.
    Oh, I completely agree that condemning the structure and leadership of the institution is reasonable and in fact, necessary. The Catholic Church has a very top-down order to things and although it's decreased somewhat over time, it also enforces an attitude that lay people need to shut up and listen to the clergy. Those aspects of the Church need to be altered because they undoubtedly contributed to the cover up and probably made a lot of pedophiles feel safe abusing children - especially back in the day. (Although, this is also a big problem outside of the church as a lot of parents tell their kids to always "mind their teachers" and "do what the adults say".)

    My point was that it is absurd to hold regular Catholics responsible (as you said) and also to just write off the entire Church because some/many of its leaders failed to act. Although I disagree with a lot of what the Church does in general, it has also done a lot of good in the world so I'm not going to get on board with completely condemning it as an organization. I think it's due for another revamping and after Benedict dies, I hope that happens since I'm pretty sure he was meant to be a pre-transitional Pope who has lived past his expected 'reign'.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    But isn't it reasonable to condemn the structure and leadership of the institution, and the elements of the institution that lead to this? The secrecy, greed, and power grabbing by the church certainly contributed to this problem. The pope himself issued the order to cover up instances of priests raping children. The prohibition against priests engaging in consensual adult sex could assuredly have contributed.

    It's absurd to hold your Catholic neighbor responsible. It is correct to hold Catholic structure and dogma responsible.
    Still no one has been able to show any proof of any this.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    The prohibition against priests engaging in consensual adult sex could assuredly have contributed.
    I didn't see this part last time. The fact that married men are just as like to be pedophiles as celibate men blows this theory out of the water. There's also the fact that there isn't any substantial scientific proof of a link between celibacy and pedophilia.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Why is it so hard to understand that a bunch of perverts used the catholic church as a means to attack children. That is the bottom line. It is NOT a reflection on catholics, their beliefs, of the church or religion as a whole.

    Attack the offenders.

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