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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Where's your crusade against Buddhist monks? They lead the same lifestyle.
    OMFG....you obviously have a very limited understanding of Buddhist Philosophy (Note I said Philosophy, as it is not a religion, and has no GOD). Understand I am not Buddhist either, but know enough to respect the path and take from it what I can. The lifestyle is almost as opposite from Catholic teachings as you can get. I was raised Catholic, have read six versions of the Bibles, studied Jehovah, delved into the QU'Ran, and even read the book of Mormon for Kicks...I would recommend you try not to test me on the art of Religion, it wont end well.


    Oh...by the way, I have yet to see a Monk playing diddly with a little boy.
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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Whatever the case, the reality is that you don't demonize a whole group/institution for the actions of some in that group. That goes for the OWS, the TP, Christians, Muslims, Atheists, etc.

    Can we agree on that or should we have to beat this poor dead horse even further?

    When the institution itself, allows for and seems to condone the actions....perhaps it deserves to be demonized?

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I think those within the Church have sinned from time to time. I think that Church Fathers lead more godly lives than you or I do. I think that the witch hunt going on against the Catholic Church is a reflection on the fact that you don't want to feel judged... and the Catholic Church is the biggest target. It has nothing to do with reason, and everything to do with fear and hatred.

    BTW, I'm not even Catholic.

    Perhaps not...but you ARE making assumptions that ignore reality!

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    When the institution itself, allows for and seems to condone the actions....perhaps it deserves to be demonized?
    "Seems" is not "is." Far too many people upstairs and own make that mistake.

    How exactly does it allow for priests to rape people? Aren't there standards and regulations?

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    When the institution itself, allows for and seems to condone the actions....perhaps it deserves to be demonized?
    Keep seeing this.....still waiting on proof.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    People have used the Catholic church to get into a position of trust so they can abuse children. The Catholic church did not seek out pedophiles. Realize the difference people. The church is not the problem. The people who did it are.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    There is one major difference though.

    There is NO central authority in the OWS group that has actively hidden, aided, and lied about illegal activity done.

    Yyyyyeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh ok....

    The organizer also claimed that Occupy Baltimore had not published information that discouraged reports of sexual assaults to the police. But this declaration may have been parsing words. The organizer’s obvious focus on “published information” seemed a bit too specific for the question at hand. It clearly left open the possibility that Occupiers were discouraging reports of rape to the police by word of mouth– which has happened in other cities and appears to have been the case in Baltimore.

    In fact, Occupy Baltimore recently revised its sexual assault reporting guidelines after distributing pamphlets that discouraged victims from coming forward to the police. The pamphlets instructed victims of assault to report incidents to the “Security Team” which would “supply the abuser with counseling resources.”

    Raped and Robbed Occupy Baltimore Woman Receives No Help From ‘Activists’ | Video | TheBlaze.com

    Obvioulsly, your statement is wrong.


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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    People have used the Catholic church to get into a position of trust so they can abuse children. The Catholic church did not seek out pedophiles. Realize the difference people. The church is not the problem. The people who did it are.
    As an answer two all three above posts, it is well established and documented that Many aspects of Catholic leadership hid, and then protected those perpetrating these vile acts.

    Here 'ya go....maybe someone will actually try to dispute it this time:


    "The evidence is that a higher percentage of Catholic priests and male Religious molest
    children more than other ministers of religion. Clergy of all denominations do not molest
    equally. In her foreword, the lawyer, Sylvia Demerest cites a 1995 survey of 19,000
    treating professionals, funded by the National Centre on Child Abuse and Neglect. The
    study found that in the US, 94% of abuses by religious authorities were sexual in nature.
    Over half of these cases (54%) involved perpetrators and victims who were Catholic, even
    though Roman Catholics comprise only 25% of the United States population. The minor
    victims of priest abuse are overwhelmingly boys and teenagers, (80­90%), which is
    contrary to the pattern of abuse in the general population.
    American studies are not the only ones which defy the assumption that clergy of
    all denominations abuse equally. The Briggs­Hawen study included 200
    convicted child molesters in New South Wales, Australia. It found that 93% of
    convicted and imprisoned child molesters had themselves been sexually abused as
    children and 60% stated that they had been abused by a Catholic priest or
    Brother.

    The Conspiracy
    There has been a nationwide pattern which I have observed over the last 35
    years. Bishops know of ongoing sexual misconduct by Catholic priests and
    religious and bishops co-operate to keep such misconduct from becoming public
    knowledge. The following are uniform practices: failing to investigate indications
    of any sexual misconduct, even with children; failing to supervise properly the
    cleric in his assignment, failing to ensure that the cleric is prosecuted for
    misconduct with children. Once an incident occurs, energy and policies at the
    highest levels of Church authority have been directed to damage control,
    avoidance of scandal at all costs, and efforts to placate and manipulate victims
    and families. The latter often involves intimidation, misleading information, and
    even fraudulent means, if necessary. Policy also involves maintaining the priest in
    a new assignment without proper supervision and without informing the
    congregation where the abusive behaviour usually continues.
    (Sipe, A W R,
    Preliminary expert report <http://www.thelinkup.com/sipe.html>,"

    Studies on Priests Molesting Children

    Denial of this information does not make it go away...deal with it.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    As an answer two all three above posts, it is well established and documented that Many aspects of Catholic leadership hid, and then protected those perpetrating these vile acts.

    Here 'ya go....maybe someone will actually try to dispute it this time:


    "The evidence is that a higher percentage of Catholic priests and male Religious molest
    children more than other ministers of religion. Clergy of all denominations do not molest
    equally. In her foreword, the lawyer, Sylvia Demerest cites a 1995 survey of 19,000
    treating professionals, funded by the National Centre on Child Abuse and Neglect. The
    study found that in the US, 94% of abuses by religious authorities were sexual in nature.
    Over half of these cases (54%) involved perpetrators and victims who were Catholic, even
    though Roman Catholics comprise only 25% of the United States population. The minor
    victims of priest abuse are overwhelmingly boys and teenagers, (80&SHY;90%), which is
    contrary to the pattern of abuse in the general population.
    American studies are not the only ones which defy the assumption that clergy of
    all denominations abuse equally. The Briggs&SHY;Hawen study included 200
    convicted child molesters in New South Wales, Australia. It found that 93% of
    convicted and imprisoned child molesters had themselves been sexually abused as
    children and 60% stated that they had been abused by a Catholic priest or
    Brother.

    The Conspiracy
    There has been a nationwide pattern which I have observed over the last 35
    years. Bishops know of ongoing sexual misconduct by Catholic priests and
    religious and bishops co-operate to keep such misconduct from becoming public
    knowledge. The following are uniform practices: failing to investigate indications
    of any sexual misconduct, even with children; failing to supervise properly the
    cleric in his assignment, failing to ensure that the cleric is prosecuted for
    misconduct with children. Once an incident occurs, energy and policies at the
    highest levels of Church authority have been directed to damage control,
    avoidance of scandal at all costs, and efforts to placate and manipulate victims
    and families. The latter often involves intimidation, misleading information, and
    even fraudulent means, if necessary. Policy also involves maintaining the priest in
    a new assignment without proper supervision and without informing the
    congregation where the abusive behaviour usually continues.
    (Sipe, A W R,
    Preliminary expert report <http://www.thelinkup.com/sipe.html>,"

    Studies on Priests Molesting Children

    Denial of this information does not make it go away...deal with it.
    Learn the difference between evidence and some guys blog.

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    Re: Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God’s love feels like’

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Ignorant, is a relatively strong term to bandy about, thus I will refrain from such things in favor of supplying Data:
    "The evidence is that a higher percentage of Catholic priests and male Religious molest
    children more than other ministers of religion. Clergy of all denominations do not molest
    equally. In her foreword, the lawyer, Sylvia Demerest cites a 1995 survey of 19,000
    treating professionals, funded by the National Centre on Child Abuse and Neglect. The
    study found that in the US, 94% of abuses by religious authorities were sexual in nature.
    Over half of these cases (54%) involved perpetrators and victims who were Catholic, even
    though Roman Catholics comprise only 25% of the United States population. The minor
    victims of priest abuse are overwhelmingly boys and teenagers, (80&SHY;90%), which is
    contrary to the pattern of abuse in the general population."


    Studies on Priests Molesting Children

    I suppose I may simply be ignorant, and am adding 2+2 to get 5...but the celibacy seems more likely than anything else, including this:
    "A lengthy, in-depth report on the child sexual abuse scandals of the Catholic Church—a report paid for primarily by the Catholic Church—has found that it wasn't the whole "celibate, sexually frustrated men in close proximity to vulnerable children" thing that caused all the molestation. It was hippies."

    Catholic Church Blames Hippies, Not Celibacy, for All That Kid-Molesting
    Priests Commit No More Abuse Than Other Males - The Daily Beast
    Forum: The myth of the 'pedophile priest'

    I also don't know what the Church's blaming "hippies" has to do with anything. Celibacy is not "more likely than anything else" because 1) Catholic priests are not more likely to pedophiles and 2) Celibacy has no proven link to pedophilia and 3) Married men are just as likely to commit pedophilia. Like I said, ignorance.

    The uniqueness of the Catholic Church when it comes to pedophilia in relation to the general population is a myth - nothing more.
    Last edited by ThePlayDrive; 02-16-12 at 07:13 PM.

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