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    Lawyer: More than 8,000 children abused by Milwaukee archdiocese priests

    MILWAUKEE (WSAU) An attorney says at least 8,000 kids were sexually abused by over 100 priests and other offenders in the Milwaukee Catholic Diocese. Jeffrey Anderson made the assertion yesterday at a court hearing on the first compensation claims filed by abuse victims as part of church's bankruptcy proceedings. Anderson told Judge Susan Kelley that sealed bankruptcy documents outlined the extent of the abuse. He said the offenders include 75 priests who have not been previously named by the archdiocese. Anderson represents over half of the 570 victims who filed for compensation.
    And this is only the diocese for one single city, Milwaukee. Extrapolate this to the world, and it is easy to see that millions of children, over the years, have been sexually abused by priests and other workers in the Catholic church.... Which brings me to this point.....

    How dare the Catholic church get on it's moral high horse and tell people how to run their lives, and make demands on women regarding contraception, abortion, or what have you!! Yes, the very same people who make these demands are the very same people who looked the other way when their priests were raping children, and some of them were not even looking the other way, but were participating in the raping of children themselves. And this goes for the Pope himself. He also looked the other way when priests were raping children, and even attempted to cover it up. And these people have the unmitigated audacity to tell others that they are going to hell? And the Catholic Church has the unmitigated audacity to inject itself into politics in an attempt to force others to live their lives how they want them to? My answer to the Catholic Church is the following: Physician, heal thyself. You people are no more qualified to dictate morality to us than a prostitute is qualified to teach sex education to children. Jesus said that we should know of anything by the fruit it bears. Well, I have seen enough fruit of the Catholic Church to know that this fruit is only fit to be thrown away as garbage.

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    Re: Lawyer: More than 8,000 children abused by Milwaukee archdiocese priests

    Let me start by saying that I have absolutely no hate, or any dislike for catholics as a congregation or as believers.

    I am a strong proponent of religious freedom even though I am an ardent athiest that does not find any religion or holy book very appealing.

    But the catholic church as an institution, to the very highest levels of the Vatican, is a disgrace. It's self righteous and dictatorial nature I believe is an affront to what Christianity should be about, speaking as a very devout ex-Christian.

    The nerve, of dictating to the worlds inhabitants what they should, and should not do, based on things that aren't even expressely forbidden in the bible (Condoms being one) and not have the balls to admit that there's a problem in the church... or perhaps a better word is to confess that human frailty inhabits even organizations that are trying to do right is to me, an affront to humanity and human progress.

    Having said that in the past few years the current pope has been addressing the subject, albiet in baby steps rather then the giant strides needed to fully address the issue.

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    Threads like these tend to go a certain route. You have folks on one side who defend the Catholic Church and Catholicism, and folks on the other side attacking the Catholic Church, Catholicism, and often religion in general. How about switching things up for ONCE? How about we discuss why the problem might be occurring and what the Catholic Church... and people in GENERAL could do about it without demonizing anyone, or making a side be the victim? Might be a novel approach to this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Threads like these tend to go a certain route. You have folks on one side who defend the Catholic Church and Catholicism, and folks on the other side attacking the Catholic Church, Catholicism, and often religion in general. How about switching things up for ONCE? How about we discuss why the problem might be occurring and what the Catholic Church... and people in GENERAL could do about it without demonizing anyone, or making a side be the victim? Might be a novel approach to this discussion.
    That would be a good approach, but with the Catholic Church demanding that we all live our lives in a certain fashion, I am more open to exposing the hypocrisy that exists in the church.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That would be a good approach, but with the Catholic Church demanding that we all live our lives in a certain fashion, I am more open to exposing the hypocrisy that exists in the church.
    Separate issue. The Catholic Church's beliefs have little to do with their ability or INability to manage their employees. I don't see it as hypocrisy at all. I see it as a very poor management style.
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    Re: Lawyer: More than 8,000 children abused by Milwaukee archdiocese priests

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And this is only the diocese for one single city, Milwaukee. Extrapolate this to the world, and it is easy to see that millions of children, over the years, have been sexually abused by priests and other workers in the Catholic church.... Which brings me to this point.....

    How dare the Catholic church get on it's moral high horse and tell people how to run their lives, and make demands on women regarding contraception, abortion, or what have you!! Yes, the very same people who make these demands are the very same people who looked the other way when their priests were raping children, and some of them were not even looking the other way, but were participating in the raping of children themselves. And this goes for the Pope himself. He also looked the other way when priests were raping children, and even attempted to cover it up. And these people have the unmitigated audacity to tell others that they are going to hell? And the Catholic Church has the unmitigated audacity to inject itself into politics in an attempt to force others to live their lives how they want them to? My answer to the Catholic Church is the following: Physician, heal thyself. You people are no more qualified to dictate morality to us than a prostitute is qualified to teach sex education to children. Jesus said that we should know of anything by the fruit it bears. Well, I have seen enough fruit of the Catholic Church to know that this fruit is only fit to be thrown away as garbage.

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    I notice you haven't done a similar "attack" thread on the LA School system after dozens of children were sexually abused by multiple teachers. I wonder why that is...
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    Re: Lawyer: More than 8,000 children abused by Milwaukee archdiocese priests

    I don't get why people ask for money in these issues. You got molested. Granted, it's terrible. However, I'd be far happier knowing the people who let it happen are in jail. If the priests are dead, then they should make sure any money they sue for goes towards helping abused children today and ensuring something like this never happens again.

    As far as the church's role on this goes: No surprise that the single most corrupt, criminal and murderous organization to ever exist is linked to another child abuse scandal.
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    Re: Lawyer: More than 8,000 children abused by Milwaukee archdiocese priests

    I'm a Catholic, I love my church, I believe its a force of good in the world and I believe in the institution. HOWEVER, it definitely needs to reform in some big ways, and it needs to come clean with this child abuse stuff.

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    Re: Lawyer: More than 8,000 children abused by Milwaukee archdiocese priests

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I notice you haven't done a similar "attack" thread on the LA School system after dozens of children were sexually abused by multiple teachers. I wonder why that is...
    Because the LA school system didn't protect pedophiles from the police, relocate them and then pretend it never happened. Don't let your hatred for Dana and public workers get in the way of common sense.
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    Re: Lawyer: More than 8,000 children abused by Milwaukee archdiocese priests

    I used to have knee-jerk reactions against the Church over all of the pedophile scandals, but now the #1 thing that comes to mind is, "Why do so many pedophiles seem to gravitate to the Church?" I'm not bashing Catholicism or making some kind of broader implication about Catholics here. But I mean, the wide spread abuses, are SO wide spread and numerous. What is the flaw in the Catholic system that has permitted such abominations to happen all over the world?

    Is there something about priesthood that attracts pedophilia? Is it the disguise of celebacy when really you're not? Is it the position of authority that gives you such broad discretionary powers over parishoners? Could it be that pedophiles feel safer in plain sight?

    I'm just asking these questions as discussion starters, because I'd really like to know. Also, this issue makes me wonder about OTHER faiths and their people of religious authority. What kind of abuses could be happening there?

    My own spiritual values do not permit me to give away my power to any middle man. My convenant is with God directly. So I'm wondering what permits people to turn such a blind eye to child abuse within these religious institutions?

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