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    Re: Whitney Houston has died

    Quote Originally Posted by 00timh View Post
    Yet another tragedy of celebrities. When I 1st read about it, it didn't surprise me in the least. She had been a mess for years. Although I would never want to be that famous, if I did become that famous, the 1st thing I would do would be to hire someone who if I was to start on the path so many of them do would be to kick my ass off of that path.
    If memory serves, in addition tot he crack, wasn't she also into heroin?


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    Re: Whitney Houston has died

    When you didn't hear about her getting her life squared away after the first time it was made public, you just knew it was going to come down to this. It's a bad deal but in fact it was her choice to begin doing drugs ( If that is what ended up taking her life). It's not like we don't have plenty of advertising saying "Drugs are Bad" Anyone who makes the choice knows the consequences. I was never a fan of hers so I didn't idolize her, but compassion for other people makes me feel sorry for her. What a wasted life! So much talent and just threw it away.

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    We all reap what we sew to some degree but people who keep going back to drugs have no "coping skills". They don't know how to deal with the stresses of life, even success. I think that's pitiful.
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    Re: Whitney Houston has died

    Only a matter of time...it's leaking out...

    Whitney Houston Found 'Underwater' in Hotel Bathtub

    "She was underwater and apparently unconscious," the Beverly Hills Police Department said in a statement, adding that authorities "cannot speculate on what may have caused or contributed to her death.
    Several prescription drugs were found in Houston's hotel room, but Los Angeles County coroner's officials said it's too soon to say whether the medications played any role in the singer's death. Authorities have said that they are trying to determine whether she drowned and that determining a cause of death could take weeks.
    Whitney Houston was found underwater in bathtub, police say - latimes.com
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    Re: Whitney Houston has died

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Addiction isn't as simple as "I have enough money for rehab". It isn't as simple as "HER choice". I'm a little bit grumpy too and I'm a lot a bit over people trying to simplify addiction to mere choice.
    I'm not so grumpy any more, but I still disagree with me simplifying it in the context you think I am. Tina Turner went through hell too. She didn't climb in the cesspit with Ike. She clawed her way out. Houston had enough money to claw, fight, scream, berate, and FIGHT to be like she was before doing drugs but she chose not to. How many wish so hard to beat addiction but don't have the money to go to posh places with doctors everywhere to assist with withdrawals or people at their beck and call to help them stay the course? Not many. Houstons friends and family were with her the night before the grammys...partying it up, drinking with her. Co dependents, all of them. And the main character could have done more than she did because she had the means to do it. So while I feel pity she is dead, I also struggle with too much sympathy for her plight when she could have got all the help she wanted...and didn't.

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    Re: Whitney Houston has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    That's very harsh, possibly a little unfeeling to those who loved her, but essentially true. It is, however, a fact of life that modern society does get very obsessed with the sad outcomes of the dissolute lives of effed-up rich folk. Perhaps it makes people feel better about themselves in a rather sad way, a combination of schadenfreude and 'there, but for the grace of God, go I'.
    No “There, but for the grace of God, go I” for me, nor for most sensible people. “The grace of God” has nothing to do with tragedies such as this. Stupid people making stupid choices has everything to do with it.

    What person doesn't know that abusing drugs can **** one up very badly? And yet many people are stupid enough to go down that road, knowing exactly where it is likely to lead.
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    Re: Whitney Houston has died

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Addiction isn't as simple as "I have enough money for rehab". It isn't as simple as "HER choice". I'm a little bit grumpy too and I'm a lot a bit over people trying to simplify addiction to mere choice.
    I get that once you fall into the trap of addiction, it's not so easy to get back out.

    But in most cases, it's a trap that is easily avoided, if you the sense to do so before it catches you.

    It takes a very special kind of stupid to start misusing most drugs in the first place.
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    Re: Whitney Houston has died

    I was no fan of Whitney Houston, but she had god-given talent the likes we have rarely ever heard in a singing voice. Three things to note:

    1 - Addiction to drugs and alcohol is a deadly disease. I've watched love ones struggle with their addiction their entire life. It's a disease and it's tough to beat.
    2 - Addicts tend to gravitate to other addicts. Bobby Brown, while a major first-class asshole, was an addict too. Often times, it's the two-legged drugs (men) that are the hardest for women to give up.
    3 - Whitney became a major, major star at a very young age. How many of us who are not addicts could have handled the popularity, media attention, paparazzi, money and fame at such a young age (she was barely 22 when she charted her first #1)? Factor in her addiction to go along with everything she was dealing with and you have a ticking time bomb. In all honesty, I'm surprised she lasted this long, and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way - just an observation.

    Whatever the cause, the world lost a tremendously talented woman. Despite her struggles and her faults, she had a set of pipes like few others in our lifetimes, if not forever. Like I said earlier I was no fan, but I can respect her talent.
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    Re: Whitney Houston has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I get that once you fall into the trap of addiction, it's not so easy to get back out.

    But in most cases, it's a trap that is easily avoided, if you the sense to do so before it catches you.

    It takes a very special kind of stupid to start misusing most drugs in the first place.
    You obviously lived a very dull teenage life and know absolutely nothing about addiction.
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    Re: Whitney Houston has died

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I get that once you fall into the trap of addiction, it's not so easy to get back out.

    But in most cases, it's a trap that is easily avoided, if you the sense to do so before it catches you.

    It takes a very special kind of stupid to start misusing most drugs in the first place.
    You obviously lived a very dull teenage life and know absolutely nothing about addiction.

    What is it that you think I don't know, that I missed out on by having “lived a very dull teenage life”?

    When I was a teenage, back in the late 1970s, I knew what drugs were. And I knew what happened to people who used them. And I was smart enough not to let that happen to me.

    And yes, I knew people who thought that not using drugs was “dull”. Stupid people. I wasn't one of them. I didn't generally associate with them.
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