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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Gheeze, we didn't see this one coming right?....Oh wait, we did too...In fact it is exactly what we said would happen. What a mess. Funny how the Islamist group MB sounds just like liberal progressives here in America doesn't it?Using a crisis to grab power, changing their name to soften the appeal to the masses, etc....j-mac
    That's the thing about propping up a U.S. backed leader in a country that is against it... once they have freedom of determination again, they are likely to choose the most hardline people who will attack foreign interests. That's exactly what happened in Iran with the rise of the mullahs.

    Egypt's revolution is going to ensure they have self-determination, and we won't have any say in who they pick. That's what the world is coming to.

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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

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    That's the thing about propping up a U.S. backed leader in a country that is against it... once they have freedom of determination again, they are likely to choose the most hardline people who will attack foreign interests. That's exactly what happened in Iran with the rise of the mullahs.

    Egypt's revolution is going to ensure they have self-determination, and we won't have any say in who they pick. That's what the world is coming to.

    And what happens when that fully takes place? Anything good?


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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then I have no other conclusion to come to other than you are not being honest of your supposed knowledge from which you speak. I wasn't trying to box you in, rather determine from what position of experience you speak from. I mean after all I wouldn't see what it matters, you telling me that is, this is an anonymus board, and no one knows who you are so, the only reason to say that you will NOT tell me, just lends a lack of credibility into what you say....Sorry....Have a nice day.


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    Seems to me sharon was perfectly clear that she spent two decades living in the Middle East. What are your qualifications that give you a superior perspective?

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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Then I have no other conclusion to come to other than you are not being honest of your supposed knowledge from which you speak. I wasn't trying to box you in, rather determine from what position of experience you speak from. I mean after all I wouldn't see what it matters, you telling me that is, this is an anonymus board, and no one knows who you are so, the only reason to say that you will NOT tell me, just lends a lack of credibility into what you say....Sorry....Have a nice day.


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    I am sorry you feel that way.. I went to school on Rutlege Avenue in the Holy City and lived in Flowertown.. but I have no intention of telling you who I am or who may family was.

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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Seems to me sharon was perfectly clear that she spent two decades living in the Middle East. What are your qualifications that give you a superior perspective?
    I don't recall saying that I was giving superior perspective, could you point out where I said that?.....Only that I wanted to know in what capacity she was there, it makes a difference as to the lens she sees the ME through, and I am interested. Now, go troll elsewhere. Thanks.


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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't recall saying that I was giving superior perspective, could you point out where I said that?.....Only that I wanted to know in what capacity she was there, it makes a difference as to the lens she sees the ME through, and I am interested. Now, go troll elsewhere. Thanks.


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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I am sorry you feel that way.. I went to school on Rutlege Avenue in the Holy City and lived in Flowertown.. but I have no intention of telling you who I am or who may family was.
    I do not want to know any of that. Only if in vague terms, for instance, would you say you are pro Palestinian? Would you say that when Amhadinejihad calls for the Mahdi to return, and hasten the caliphate, is he speaking on the verge of being cast out? Or are there some that follow, and believe his words? Things like that, which are intrigue rather than some percieved political point scoring...

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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I do not want to know any of that. Only if in vague terms, for instance, would you say you are pro Palestinian? Would you say that when Amhadinejihad calls for the Mahdi to return, and hasten the caliphate, is he speaking on the verge of being cast out? Or are there some that follow, and believe his words? Things like that, which are intrigue rather than some percieved political point scoring...

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    Ahmadinejad is mouthy and unimportant.

    And yes I have been pro Palestinians since the early 1950s because there were many Palestinians working in Arabia and Christian Palestinians were in my Sunday School class.

    And I wouldn't worry too much about that 12th Imam drivel... Iranians who believe that are a minority.. sort of like Hal Lindsey's Rapture Ready gang.

    There won't be another Caliphate.. the last one was a dud, that sent the Arab world backwards 600 years.

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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Ahmadinejad is mouthy and unimportant.
    Mouthy, heck yeah, we agree on that for sure....Unimportant? Not so sure about that....

    And yes I have been pro Palestinians since the early 1950s because there were many Palestinians working in Arabia and Christian Palestinians were in my Sunday School class.
    Interesting, Does Israel have the right to exist?

    And I wouldn't worry too much about that 12th Imam drivel... Iranians who believe that are a minority.. sort of like Hal Lindsey's Rapture Ready gang.
    The last time we said pay no attention to the mad man in control, 6 million Jews were killed.

    There won't be another Caliphate.. the last one was a dud, that sent the Arab world backwards 600 years.
    As a historical basis, how many true caliphates have been attempted?


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    Re: Egypt's Brotherhood says it should govern

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Mouthy, heck yeah, we agree on that for sure....Unimportant? Not so sure about that....



    Interesting, Does Israel have the right to exist?

    Yes.. and I think they have made very poor choices in Palestine over the past 80 years... that have brought us to this impasse.

    The last time we said pay no attention to the mad man in control, 6 million Jews were killed.

    Ahmadinejad is not the power in Iran.. He's the mouthpiece. If he were the power, we would have resolved this mess. I wouldn't compare him to Hitler.. Bush did that with Saddam Hussein..

    As a historical basis, how many true caliphates have been attempted?

    [B]Oh I don't really know.. The last attempt was 1924.. I think it lasted two weeks. There were some small ones in Yemen and I believe in Sudan, but they had absolutely no clout in the Arab world.[/B}


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    ............................ The Arab states all have their own interests and priorities.. there will never be another Caliphate unless its an honorarium.. and that is doubtful.. There are just too many different sects in Islam.
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