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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There is cause for investigation for sure. But it would have to be damned good evidence that they had knowledge of the crime before hand.
    Not specific knowledge of the crime itself, just specific knowledge that the kid presented an unreasonable danger to others and they took no action to control or have her placed somewhere secure.

    I'd convict for that.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Not specific knowledge of the crime itself, just specific knowledge that the kid presented an unreasonable danger to others and they took no action to control or have her placed somewhere secure.

    I'd convict for that.
    I don't know if I would; it would really depend on the evidence and the situation.
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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't know if I would; it would really depend on the evidence and the situation.
    Doesn't it always?

    Methinks we need some new laws.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Doesn't it always?

    Methinks we need some new laws.
    No....we have enough laws already.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No....we have enough laws already.
    We have no way to charge the parents of this girl.

    Ergo, IMO, we need a new law.

    Doesn't mean I don't think we could repeal 50% of the ones we have and be better off.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    We have no way to charge the parents of this girl.

    Ergo, IMO, we need a new law.

    Doesn't mean I don't think we could repeal 50% of the ones we have and be better off.
    No, there's laws such as criminal negligence and such already. We already have laws on hand. The last thing we need is sweeping legislation which allows for the prosecution of parents when their children act out or are out of control. The parents do not make the choice to commit the crime and thus without prior knowledge of the crime proper cannot be brought before the law. That is on purpose. There are also plenty of other of laws which can be use if the situation necessitates it. You may think of this specific case and think there should be something we should be able to do with the parents, but with new law comes new corruption and new violation and it isn't far fetched that such a law would be used to abuse and spy on families.

    We have enough laws as is; well too many if you ask me. If you cannot prosecute under the laws we currently have; chances are you shouldn't be prosecuting in the first place.
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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    It it were so obvious you wouldn't be using an opinion to answer a question as to whether or not something is in the constitution. You put forth Ginsbergs interpretation of the constitution as fact because she is a SCJ. So are the other 4 who say its not. He asked you to show him where in the constitution you pulled that from, you failed to do so. nice try at a rebuttal though. Next time put some thought into it.
    Do you know how the SCOTUS works? Here I'll explain it to you. A case makes it all the way up there, 9 judges decide the constitutionality of it. If majority rules it's unconstitutional, law of the land. If majority rules it's constitutional, law of the land. I don't really care about your relativist interpretation of what is and isn't constitutional. That's how our system works. As of right now: executing people who committed a heinous crime under 18 is unconstitutional.
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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Indeed. Truer words were never spoken. Caged...out of sight, out of mind...and you feel all 'civilized.'
    I have absolutely no idea what your problem is, and I'm not interested in decoding your rhetoric.
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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Well, you can't have what you want.

    Deal with it.
    I am dealing with it by expressing my opinion.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    I can't find the link right now, but the girl wrote in her diary that the feeling she got while killing the other girl was "ahmazing!"

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