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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    But your third point.

    What if that worthless life is innocent?
    You have to make a decision here. If it is morally wrong to kill someone, it is wrong to kill them whether they are innocent or guilty. You pretty much have to pick one argument or the other as they are mutually exclusive.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    On the contrary, it achieves three very vital things:

    It is justice.
    No, it isn’t. Furthermore; whether or not someone ‘deserves’ to live is asking the wrong question.

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    It ensures that this person will never kill again.
    This can be achieved by means other than state-sanctioned murder.


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    It saves money on the life-long incarceration of worthless lives.
    Again; the financial gain, if there is any, is minimal, at best. Also, again; this is a poor justification for taking a human life.
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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    You have to make a decision here. If it is morally wrong to kill someone, it is wrong to kill them whether they are innocent or guilty. You pretty much have to pick one argument or the other as they are mutually exclusive.
    That's another thing to ponder.

    I think if there's a possibility they're innocent they should be executed, but if there's air-tight evidence and they're admitted to it, that should be a different issue. Then again, there are cases where innocent people fabricate evidence and lie [saying they're guilty] to get attention.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

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    No, it isn’t. Furthermore; whether or not someone ‘deserves’ to live is asking the wrong question.



    This can be achieved by means other than state-sanctioned murder.




    Again; the financial gain, if there is any, is minimal, at best. Also, again; this is a poor justification for taking a human life.
    Wrong. wrong and wrong. Justice means you do not execute someone for stealing a loaf of bead. The roots of the word are in 'just', thereby equal to but no more than as in "I just sat down". I am for compassion in the life for a life equation, but there are certainly cases that go beyond whatever compassion one might feel.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Where was the compassion when this girl slaughtered a 9 year old for fun?

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Where was the compassion when this girl slaughtered a 9 year old for fun?
    So...

    Since she had no compassion for killing the girl, she should recieve no compassion? It's a tough call, because this murderer, iirc, confessed.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    So...

    Since she had no compassion for killing the girl, she should recieve no compassion? It's a tough call, because this murderer, iirc, confessed.
    She confessed and had written in her diary that after she got over the "ick" she felt really good about what she did. She ended the diary entry with something along the lines of "Gotta run to church now, LOL".
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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    No, it isn’t. Furthermore; whether or not someone ‘deserves’ to live is asking the wrong question.
    This can be achieved by means other than state-sanctioned murder.
    Again; the financial gain, if there is any, is minimal, at best. Also, again; this is a poor justification for taking a human life.
    Just so we are very clear. She is guilty. She admits she is guilty. You hate her and loathe her and will not give her a seconds thought or compassion after the cell door is slammed on her for the rest of her life. But...you would join 'the cause' to keep her from being executed...because you care. Society can be 'humane' in imprisoning her for the rest of her life, but executing her...that would be 'uncivilized'.

    Quick...without reviewing the thread...what's her name again? And three years from now...how often will you consider her status? 10? 15? 20? 25? 30? 35? 40? 45? 50? 55? 60? 65? 70? (thats about right...she could easily live to be 90 in todays day and age)

    we 'care'...

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

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    Wrong. wrong and wrong. Justice means you do not execute someone for stealing a loaf of bead. The roots of the word are in 'just', thereby equal to but no more than as in "I just sat down".


    It isnít equivalent, (For starters, in order to be reciprocal, Ted Bundy would have to have been executed at least 17 times.) and it isnít justice. By this logic we should also formally sodomize rapists, and pedophiles.

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    I am for compassion in the life for a life equation, but there are certainly cases that go beyond whatever compassion one might feel.


    It isnít about compassion. Iím not sad that Ted Bundy, and John Wayne Gacy are no longer with us. Itís about institutionalized murder.
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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

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    Out of curiosity, how young would you allow them to be executed? At 12? At 6?
    As a Communist and liberal-wannabee I wouldn't allow anyone to be executed, because they wouldn't be able to work in my gulag.
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