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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Out of curiosity, how young would you allow them to be executed? At 12? At 6?
    For me personally?? If they (1) acted alone, (2) appear (through evidence) to have planned and thought out the crime prior to its commission, (3) caused undo trauma or suffering prior to death (i.e. slow torture), (4) mutilated/rape/otherwise disrespect the body (living or dead), and (4) can be shown to have no compelling mental handicap we should look at their age only minimally.

    In the majority decision for the SCOTUS case Hatuey posted, two of the major reasons for disallowing the death penalty for minors included a general understanding that peer pressure is harder for a teen to avoid and a limited ability to avoid situations that lead to criminal behavior may make minors more likely to commit crimes they would otherwise not have committed. I think both of those facts are completely irrelevant in the case at hand (again, IMO), as this girl acted on her own, planned the crime, and committed it on her own (with the exception of tricking her sister into coaxing the victim over).

    At 15, the socio-emotional skill set is well developed and she would have already reached the developmental point at which empathy springs up. She would have been perfectly capable, barring socio/psychopathy, of understanding the implications of her actions and was under no pressure to commit them.

    Now, that isn't to say we should willy-nilly apply the death sentence to those who commit murder...but I think an arbitrary exemption on the basis of age should be weighed very heavily against the facts of the crime before we start weighing sentencing options.
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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Out of curiosity, how young would you allow them to be executed? At 12? At 6?
    If a person is able to make a decision, plan a murder, understand what they are doing, and execute it then they are able to accept the consequences for it.

    EDIT: Tessa worded it far better than I did.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    personally, i am against the death penalty, but yours was a good post. she should not be eligible for parole, ever.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Out of curiosity, how young would you allow them to be executed? At 12? At 6?
    When they hit the "teen". So that means thirTEEN. Try them as adult, snuff 'em as adults. They are old enough to know right from wrong. This kid...she wanted to know what it felt like. I wonder how many animals she tortured before experimenting on a kid.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    I wonder what her reasons were for doing such a wicked thing.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Same reason Jeffrey Dahmer wanted to taste human flesh?
    They are wackos. I'm glad she was busted before becoming an expert on being what she probably would have been....a serial killer.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    Same reason Jeffrey Dahmer wanted to taste human flesh?
    They are wackos. I'm glad she was busted before becoming an expert on being what she probably would have been....a serial killer.
    Agreed. Though, I wonder what the brain scans of serial killers might have in common..

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Agreed. Though, I wonder what the brain scans of serial killers might have in common..
    Disagree, obviously a warped person but very very few women become serial killers. When they do it is usually in cahoots with a man or for profit. She would far more likely become a crack whore or something similar as women tend to internalize.

    Having said that, she is a piece of **** and should be executed in very short order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Disagree, obviously a warped person but very very few women become serial killers. When they do it is usually in cahoots with a man or for profit. She would far more likely become a crack whore or something similar as women tend to internalize.

    Having said that, she is a piece of **** and should be executed in very short order.
    Tangible evidence helps. She did something vile. That aside, I wonder if there are any similarities among the brain scans of serial killers. If there's anything about it on Google I'll post it here.

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    Re: Judge gives teen killer's sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Tangible evidence helps. She did something vile. That aside, I wonder if there are any similarities among the brain scans of serial killers. If there's anything about it on Google I'll post it here.
    Although some serial killers have some trauma to the brain, the primary problem is that they have a void in their make up. Whereas others have a conscience, they have none. Many successful people are actually psychopaths as they tend to be above average in intelligence. It certainly doesn't mean they will be murderers though, but they will not hesitate to do so if they find it advantageous sexually or financially.

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