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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by bennymac5151 View Post
    This is an excellent illustration of where the federal government tends to undermine freedom. It also proves, in my view, that the true motive of those in power who support more welfare state programs has nothing to do with alleviating the plight of the poor, and everything to do with power. The Catholic Church has a rich history of providing many programs to aid the poor in this country, and it seems completely unnecessary to alienate this group over such an issue.

    The issue is not whether or not contraceptives are good. The issue is the imposition of an arbitrary standard upon a group that simply finds compliance immoral. Whether or not they are correct is beside the point, because in a free society they have every right to hold those beliefs. Furthermore, those charities etc that the Catholic Church operates fit perfectly into the welfare state ideal, except the fact that they aren't done by the state. In other words, leftist leaders don't reap elective benefits from the Catholic Church helping the poor, so they have found a way to incentivize them to stop.
    No, this is the instance of for-profit corporation trying to use religion to give the special legal exemption.

    NOTHING is being required of or restricted from THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    This is about tax exemptions and Federal funding for Catholic Health Association Corporation..

    They don't want to pay what other hospital corporations pay claiming that the provide charity care.. However... they provide less than .05 % of their patients with charity care.

    Theyhave been fighting this battle since 2003.......
    Since you wont quote your source for .05% I thought I would quote one that says differently. 13 Largest Non-Profit Hospital Systems By Number of Hospitals | Lists and Statistics

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As far as your position I thank you for your honesty in response. I must ask though...What about say, Notre Dame? Should they have to comply?

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    Yes, I do think Notre Dame should have to comply as well. Again, I really think this plan was not made to piss of Christians, I think it just wasn't well thought out at all. It's one of those good intention plans that when applied problems start to arise that were not looked at.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, no more religious liberty in this country...I get it....


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    I don't believe we should have religious exceptions in this country. Or any exceptions for that matter.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How do you teach a class from a Catholic doctrine POV, then provide something like abortion, that goes against that doctrine? And government should stay out of that.

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    They can always go non-profit and not have to worry about it. But the almighty dollar speaks to the church instead.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    They can always go non-profit and not have to worry about it. But the almighty dollar speaks to the church instead.
    Says the atheist who supports the whole atheist movement which is about money. Makes sense!
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Says the atheist who supports the whole atheist movement which is about money. Makes sense!
    Nice try, but I'm not an atheist. Any other lame attempts at a personal attack you wanna try today?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Obama must be either insane, taking on a voting block that makes up some 28% of the electorate, or he is just conceeded enough to think that he can dictate to the Church.

    What say you?


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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigo View Post
    Says the atheist who supports the whole atheist movement which is about money. Makes sense!
    Huh? Religion makes LOTS more money than atheism.
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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Nice try, but I'm not an atheist. Any other lame attempts at a personal attack you wanna try today?

    You cetainly sound like one!
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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