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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'll just comment and say that if it is how you are saying it is, I would disagree with that and support getting that taken out.

    However, if it is like how I am explaining it, I have no problem with for profit companies having to provide this.

    As far as your position I thank you for your honesty in response. I must ask though...What about say, Notre Dame? Should they have to comply?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As far as your position I thank you for your honesty in response. I must ask though...What about say, Notre Dame? Should they have to comply?

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    Why shouldnt they?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Why shouldnt they?

    How do you teach a class from a Catholic doctrine POV, then provide something like abortion, that goes against that doctrine? And government should stay out of that.



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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How do you teach a class from a Catholic doctrine POV, then provide something like abortion, that goes against that doctrine? And government should stay out of that.



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    Notre Dame, school or not, is a business. As a business it should be required to follow the same laws as everyone else. Your religious affilations should not dictate which laws you follow at all, ever.

    If you want to have a conversation about whether health insurance should cover birth control we'd probably be having a different conversation and likely see closer to eye to eye. However, since everyone else is required to provide Notre Dame should too.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Notre Dame, school or not, is a business. As a business it should be required to follow the same laws as everyone else. Your religious affilations should not dictate which laws you follow at all, ever.

    If you want to have a conversation about whether health insurance should cover birth control we'd probably be having a different conversation and likely see closer to eye to eye. However, since everyone else is required to provide Notre Dame should too.


    So, no more religious liberty in this country...I get it....


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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, no more religious liberty in this country...I get it....


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    Catholics will NOT be forced to use birth control or have abortions.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Catholics will NOT be forced to use birth control or have abortions.

    Who said they would be? This isn't about that so why don't you stick to the real afront here?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who said they would be? This isn't about that so why don't you stick to the real afront here?

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    And the real afront would be for religions to force their religion on employees. Be it the janitor or the doctor or the nurse.
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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    This is only for the profit companies that are partnered or owned by churches. If the church doesn't like it, get out of the public business and go back to being non-profit.

    It's real simple, nobody is forcing them to be a profit company. When you go from non-profit to profit, the rules change on how you can deal and discriminate against the public.

    That is THE issue, isn't it?

    No way in hell should taxpayers or the government be required (or even allowed) to finance the Catholic church forcing people, including married couples, to either never have sex or have babies they don't want - even if the Catholic church then will accept their unwanted babies for adoption at their highly profitable pregnancy-adoption centers.

    WHY is the government giving money or assistance to the Catholic church or any Catholic for-profit business anyway? How is that even constitutional?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That is THE issue, isn't it?

    No way in hell should taxpayers or the government be required (or even allowed) to finance the Catholic church forcing people, including married couples, to either never have sex or have babies they don't want - even if the Catholic church then will accept their unwanted babies for adoption at their highly profitable pregnancy-adoption centers.

    WHY is the government giving money or assistance to the Catholic church or any Catholic for-profit business anyway? How is that even constitutional?
    This is about tax exemptions and Federal funding for Catholic Health Association Corporation..

    They don't want to pay what other hospital corporations pay claiming that the provide charity care.. However... they provide less than .05 % of their patients with charity care.

    Theyhave been fighting this battle since 2003.......

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