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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    again, you're evading the question. Let's try this a little different huh?

    should a Jewish hospital, or a Muslim hospital, or a Hindu health clinic in the USA, have the right to refuse treatment to a gay...or a Buddhist...due to their religious objections?
    This means automatic excommunication.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...mans-life.html

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Answer mine first, sweetie. Which "basic liberty" is being deprived?
    yeah, you got me to answer your question first...only to have you cut & run from answering my question to you.

    how honest of you.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    This means automatic excommunication.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...mans-life.html

    Which can be resolved the next day through confession.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

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    Which can be resolved the next day through confession.

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    excommunication is temporary?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    excommunication is temporary?


    temporary? no, but there are steps you can take to regain your acceptence within the church. I just outlined one.


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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Which can be resolved the next day through confession.

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    I never heard of that before.. So excommunication is temporary?

    Why would a Catholic have to confess for saving a life?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    temporary? no, but there are steps you can take to regain your acceptence within the church. I just outlined one.


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    do you think a Catholic-run hospital should have the right to refuse treatment to a gay, or a Jew, or a Muslim, on religious grounds?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    ...1) It's a moot point, because a Catholic hospital, consistent with its beliefs, wouldn't do so. "Love thy neighbor" is the rule, as is "love the sinner, hate the sin." If you think Catholics, as a matter of doctrine, would turn away a gay man for being gay, then it's you who have a tremendous religious bigotry, based in ignorance.....
    a Catholic institution would never turn away a gay or a Jew, seeking help?

    tell that to the Jews of Poland, 1938-1944.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Why do we feel we have to impose this on a group of people who don't want it? We know better for them?
    I couldn't agree more. Why we have to impose religous doctrine on non-Catholics who happen to work at a Catholic hospital is beyond reason. No one is being forced to take birth control are they?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I couldn't agree more. Why we have to impose religous doctrine on non-Catholics who happen to work at a Catholic hospital is beyond reason. No one is being forced to take birth control are they?
    no one is forcing them to work there. they could always panhandle.

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