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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I agree that the clergy is out of touch... What a shame........
    The Church is stuck with their early history power grab when they invented the Pope--since then a way out of touch old man is allowed to dictate policy.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Isn't a responsiblity of the people who participate in the church to change the church's views, not the government?
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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Isn't a responsiblity of the people who participate in the church to change the church's views, not the government?

    Sadly not in today's argument....The Catholic Church seems to need those who are not Catholic, or even believers in religion dictating doctrine for them...

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Isn't a responsiblity of the people who participate in the church to change the church's views, not the government?
    The church isn't a democracy.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Obama must be either insane, taking on a voting block that makes up some 28% of the electorate, or he is just conceeded enough to think that he can dictate to the Church.

    What say you?...
    I am troubled by the idea that we should let religious doctrine trump civil law.

    what if the only job available in a town, is at the local catholic hospital.

    we should just sit back and let that hospital deny contraceptives to their workers, because their Priest-God says so?

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The church isn't a democracy.
    However, the people who belong to it choose too.

    The church changes when it wants to / has to. The people are the church.
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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I am troubled by the idea that we should let religious doctrine trump civil law.

    The law of God trumps any law man devises.

    what if the only job available in a town, is at the local catholic hospital
    Then I would say that the town have more severe problems than causing you to buy a $5 pack of condoms. Maybe you should move.

    we should just sit back and let that hospital deny contraceptives to their workers, because their Priest-God says so?
    You are not forced to work anywhere in this country. If you don't like the terms of your employment, then don't work there.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The law of God trumps any law man devises....
    oh, so you support Sharia law?

    I guess you feel we should allow polygamy, and stoning of folks who curse their parents, for the Bible allows it?

    you support honor killings, as the Koran allows it?

    we should allow folks to rape their daughters, if Hinduism allows it?
    Last edited by Thunder; 02-12-12 at 03:33 PM.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    This is why we have separation of church and state.

    Not to protect the church from big gov, the opposite.

    You've got congregations all around the country listening to a person of authority, their parish priest, lecture them on politics and sexuality.

    Just like in Europe, the pope tries to be the head of all the countries, the supreme authority. And Henry VIII said no. Granted, it was all about the Nookie.

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    Re: Catholics hear anti-Obama letter in church

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    oh, so you support Sharia law?
    Does Sharia law work inside the concepts of our society? Could they have Sharia law in America without violating the rights of other Americans?

    That is the equivalent of saying do you support communism to someone fighting for democracy.

    The Catholic Church has been a opperating entity in this country for years. Now there is a mandate that is going to directly impact their beliefs, and it doesn't have to be this way.
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