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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Forget probable cause; there's nothing even approaching reasonable suspicion.
    You don't need probable cause to buy a gun at a gun show!

    Y'all have been watching WAY too much Law and Order.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You don't need probable cause to buy a gun at a gun show!

    Y'all have been watching WAY too much Law and Order.
    hey, that show helped me get my Peace Officer status.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    You don't need probable cause to buy a gun at a gun show!

    Y'all have been watching WAY too much Law and Order.
    You do if you are using false pretenses for the purpose of legal action, or for the purposes of "investigation". The fact is the P.I.s flat out lied to get what they considered damning evidence on behalf of a jackass mayor almost a coast away from jurisdiction. You may not lie to obtain a firearm under either federal or state laws.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I'm sure that there are extremo libber's on the left that would LOVE to take away our guns. But I also know that there are whacko righties that would want to put up video cams in our bedrooms and send the poor to work camps to serve the rich.
    True, not all liberals are anti-2nd, those that aren't usually are at about the same stance as the right on ownership, also true that most conservatives like myself couldn't give two damns what consenting adults do in private(I am also against street cams and traffic enforcement cams/vans). However the loudest of the wings get the most coverage, and the anti-2nd left tends to have a lot of dishonest arguments towards the gun control debate.
    I think it's a bit extreme to paint either group with one big brush.
    True, but one must blame the extremists for that as they are the ones screwing up our fine republic.
    That's all I'm saying. I don't buy all the demonization and fabrications from the right that are pointed at people who differ from them in opinion. Most critical thinking people don't.
    I will say this, opinion is fine but call to action to limit my rights will be met with a high level of resistance and scorn.
    One thing for sure. There are no shortage of idiots here in America. Good news is, there aren't enough of them to really matter in the grand scheme of things and just enough of them to keep FOXNews profitable.
    Oh come on now. A dig at FOX, you are better than that.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You do if you are using false pretenses for the purpose of legal action, or for the purposes of "investigation". The fact is the P.I.s flat out lied to get what they considered damning evidence on behalf of a jackass mayor almost a coast away from jurisdiction. You may not lie to obtain a firearm under either federal or state laws.
    As a matter of fact there is no law at all against telling a private seller that you might not pass a background check. There are laws against lying to REGISTERED DEALERS, yes ... but NOT private sellers.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It is both. Listen Joe, there are reasons that police as a professional courtesy inform other jurisdictions when they are present. Let me ask you, Do you think it is perfectly appropiate for another state's police to enter into say your state un announced to conduct a sting?

    j-mac
    I wonder what the purpose of the sting was exactly.

    The NYPD cannot bring any of the guilty up on charges as none of the crimes happened in New York.

    Why did they waste their time?

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I wonder what the purpose of the sting was exactly.

    The NYPD cannot bring any of the guilty up on charges as none of the crimes happened in New York.

    Why did they waste their time?
    Bloomberg wants the federal law changed to require background checks for all gun sales. He was trying to draw attention to the problem of private sellers being exempt from the BG check requirement (a/k/a the gun show loophole).

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    For the record...this wasnt a 'sting'. There were no arrests made (how could there be...Mikey even admitted the sales were legal). Arizona doesnt require two party consent for recording an event (provided there isnt criminal or torte intent). They were trying to prove a 'point'...the point being that some gun sales at a gun show are done without background checks (true) and with the implication that the seller knew the gun he was selling was going to a criminal (not true). In the video presented by Mikey, no comment was made re 'possible' failure of a background check. In the second sale the buyer jokingly stated he 'probably' couldnt pass a background check, not that he couldnt. The ONLY criminal behavior here might have been done by the buyer.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I wonder what the purpose of the sting was exactly.

    The NYPD cannot bring any of the guilty up on charges as none of the crimes happened in New York.

    Why did they waste their time?
    because Bloomberg has done such a good job cleaning up NYC he feels he has the time to try and fix everywhere else now.

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    So most illegal guns in ny come from the east coast.

    Why aint any of the lefties all upset he used the giffords shooting as a prop for his illegal stings?
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