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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Uh, no. He correctly pointed out that the 2A wasn't incorporated until McDonald.

    Boy, you'd think, if you were going to attempt to speak on this stuff authoritatively, you'd at least have some notion that prior to McDonald, one of the chief arguments in favor of state gun control, as cited in opinion after opinion all over state and federal courts, was that the 2A was not incorporated.

    But you plod forward not knowing that anyway.
    ITs fun seeing freshly minted attorneys who really have no background in this topic pretending that they are learned on this subject so that they can play silly games of gotcha that everyone else sees as a pathetic attempt to cover up their lack of knowledge as they attempt to create a facade for their emotobabbling anti gun idiocy

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Again, you can say it's illegal all night long, but AFAIK he hasn't violated ANY laws. One doesn't have to be a licensed investigator to buy a gun at a gun show.

    but you are unable to understand that if these people bought guns when they weren't residents of the state in question that is a violation of federal law

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No idea what was going through Bloomber's head, but the gun show loophole is idiotic and should be closed. Everyone knows that it is abused on a daily basis by individuals who can't pass a background check, and by sellers who damned well are dealers in all but name who cater to the criminal element.
    Abused, yeah those damn gunower's abusing their liberty. Bastards!!
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    You sure don't have to provide info. however you still cannot lie during the purchase of the weapon. The PIs were falsifying not only their identities but their intent, they also committed entrapment in doing so. All of those are illegal.

    Studying the sewer system is not doing so to prove criminal activity. Apples and oranges.
    Brewer should tell Bloomberg if he ever shows up in Arizona, he's going to go live with Sheriff Joe.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Brewer should tell Bloomberg if he ever shows up in Arizona, he's going to go live with Sheriff Joe.
    It would be like Brewer sending some guys to NYC to buy crack and after they bought it, she held a press conference whining that NY didn't enforce federal drug laws. Those buyers of the crack cannot claim that they are above the law just because they were there to embarass the mayor

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    It would be like Brewer sending some guys to NYC to buy crack and after they bought it, she held a press conference whining that NY didn't enforce federal drug laws. Those buyers of the crack cannot claim that they are above the law just because they were there to embarass the mayor
    I think Sheriff Joe would be glad to build a special pink tent for Bloomy.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I was talking about the current state of the law -- not the history of the 2d Amendment.
    No, you weren't. You were talking abstract theory, which is why you said "if."
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What the....? Look, if you want to change a constitutionally protected right, then amend the constitution. Short of that you have Judicial activism period.
    It would take an amendment to change it. I agree. And the courts have not changed it. They've only allowed for regulation, which has always been seen as part of the amendment.



    I don't think anyone is saying that, however, I do think we need to evaluate and discard those regulations that are duplicates, and, or work against our rights as defined by the Constitution.
    You should read your fellow conservatives. Some are saying that.

    As for duplicate, as always, each one should be addressed individually.



    What? Ok, explain to me in the simplest terms what a law is then....
    Easy, as noted, within set regulations, you may have a weapon. Simple. No court has ruled otherwise.


    Yes, especially when ideology is involved. I am not saying that we need to do away with courts, just that they get back to their Constitutional restrictions, and not make law. Why is that a bad thing?


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    The trouble is one view of what is Constitutional will always be different than another. The same mixed reading that causes something to go to court is involved when reading what the court decided. See the problem?

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ITs fun seeing freshly minted attorneys who really have no background in this topic pretending that they are learned on this subject so that they can play silly games of gotcha that everyone else sees as a pathetic attempt to cover up their lack of knowledge as they attempt to create a facade for their emotobabbling anti gun idiocy
    Freshly minted!

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You are confused again-one sovereign doesn't have the power to act in this area and that is not due to the second but the tenth
    One of us is certainly confused. The reams of federal gun legislation currently in effect demonstrate who that is.

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