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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    But it IS the law, so again, thanks for making my point.
    you really don't get it do you. the second amendment prevented federal interference
    the tenth amendment recognized the power of the several states to regulate firearms. McDonald incorporated the second meaning the second can now prevent state action

    later you are trying too hard and its not working

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Uh there is a federal law that prevents a resident of NY from buying a gun from anyone in Ohio
    Uh, cite?

    18 USC § 922 - Unlawful acts | LII / Legal Information Institute

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you really don't get it do you. the second amendment prevented federal interference
    the tenth amendment recognized the power of the several states to regulate firearms. McDonald incorporated the second meaning the second can now prevent state action

    later you are trying too hard and its not working
    Yes, I get it perfectly, and thanks for making my point. If it's unconstitutional for the federal government to take away your 2d A. rights, then it's unconstitutional for states to do the same.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It's common knowledge. You can look it up yourself, welcome.
    Translation: I can't cite what doesn't exist.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yes, I get it perfectly, and thanks for making my point. If it's unconstitutional for the federal government to take away your 2d A. rights, then it's unconstitutional for states to do the same.
    Apparently you were absent the day they taught the doctrine of incorporation.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Translation: I can't cite what doesn't exist.
    Actually, the translation is I don't feel like looking up something that he should already know and that everyone else already takes as a given.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Apparently you were absent the day they taught the doctrine of incorporation.
    Noooo, the doctrine of incorporation is exactly what poops all over TD's argument. Reload and fire again.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Actually, the translation is I don't feel like looking up something that he should already know and that everyone else already takes as a given.
    Oh, okay -- I missed which claim he was asking you to cite. However, this wasn't a police operation, so it's irrelevant.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Noooo, the doctrine of incorporation is exactly what poops all over TD's argument. Reload and fire again.
    Uh, no. He correctly pointed out that the 2A wasn't incorporated until McDonald.

    Boy, you'd think, if you were going to attempt to speak on this stuff authoritatively, you'd at least have some notion that prior to McDonald, one of the chief arguments in favor of state gun control, as cited in opinion after opinion all over state and federal courts, was that the 2A was not incorporated.

    But you plod forward not knowing that anyway.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Uh, no. He correctly pointed out that the 2A wasn't incorporated until McDonald.

    Boy, you'd think, if you were going to attempt to speak on this stuff authoritatively, you'd at least have some notion that prior to McDonald, one of the chief arguments in favor of state gun control, as cited in opinion after opinion all over state and federal courts, was that the 2A was not incorporated.

    But you plod forward not knowing that anyway.
    And my point is that it is NOW INCORPORATED, so his argument is moot. WTF is wrong with you?

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