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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

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    good thing the Federal government overstepped its bounds, otherwise much of the South would still be segregated and many Americans would still be second-class citizens.
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    You have anything to back up that bigotted statement?

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

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    He has this....

    gun control. this thread is about gun control.

    focus.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

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    a nation-wide, instant, digital tracking system for all retail & wholesale gun purchases...would be a great move foreward.
    OK 1984. I do not want the government to have yet one more way to keeps tabs on me. Right now it is difficult enough to stay under the radar if you want people to leave you alone, for whatever reason. Do you remember Ruby Ridge? Do you know the outcome of the criminal charges against Randy Weaver?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didn’t have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, I’m allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and I’ve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I don’t, before you know it, you won’t let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    OK 1984....
    yeah, a digital, instant background-check system for gun-sales, is tyranny.


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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we'e not talking about someone accused of a crime, now are we?

    we're talking about folks wanting to buy a firearm. and if background checks can be instant & easy to produce for everyone, there should be no problem.

    ........but that's only if you want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

    If checks are so easy now, then why the waiting period as it exists?

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If checks are so easy now, then why the waiting period as it exists?

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    as TD will confirm, most background checks are indeed pretty much instant.

    however, gun retail & wholesale records are sent to the ATF on paper...at the dealers whim, when he feels like it.

    that should change, it should be digitized & instant.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    Seems like you aren't up to speed on your enemies thought process, the clown in the video will explain it to you.

    I think you would be shocked and embarrassed over your last post if I were to tell you what I know about my "enemies" though I tend to see anti gun types in america to be my enemies every bit as much as those jihadist scum. and people willing to kill thousands and who have the determination and resources to plot 9-11 aren't going to bet deterred by the wet dream laws the ARC wants

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    as TD will confirm, most background checks are indeed pretty much instant.

    however, gun retail & wholesale records are sent to the ATF on paper...at the dealers whim, when he feels like it.

    that should change, it should be digitized & instant.
    that would be gun registration which is not currently legal and should not be

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    as TD will confirm, most background checks are indeed pretty much instant.

    however, gun retail & wholesale records are sent to the ATF on paper...at the dealers whim, when he feels like it.

    that should change, it should be digitized & instant.
    You don't know the first thing about guns. So why do you feel your opinion on checks matter?
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yeah, a digital, instant background-check system for gun-sales, is tyranny.

    hmmm.... no, I don't think our government has engaged in illegal surveillance... illegal wiretapping... illegal search and seizure and even "accidental" search and seizure when they "accidentally" enter the wrong structure. By monitoring gun-sales you are putting one more restraint on citizens rights. A background check could have a chilling effect on law abiding citizens who would like to own a gun.

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