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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

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    Decisions of the Supreme Court can sometimes be seen as creating new law. Such as if the SCOTUS strikes down laws banning gay marriage.
    With is a corruption and usurpation of power.

    The courts have no authority to create new law. That authority belongs exclusively to the legislative branch, with a small role of the executive branch. The judicial branch only has the authority to apply existing law. It has no legitimate authority to create new law.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

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    I'm not saying they should. I'm trying to get a pro-gun person to take a position on the question one way or the other, and so far not one of them has had the cojones to state an opinion.
    When someone is convicted of a felony they serve their time completely, and then they can petition and review to have their rights restored. I believe, and I could be wrong, but I believe that is how it is now.

    When you commit a felony, especially a violent one, you give up certain rights. You make that choice.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I didn't say that they have the formal power to make new laws. But infact, when they strike down one law, they sometimes in effect create a new one.

    if SCOTUS strikes down a gay-marriage ban in California, they might indeed be in effect, saying that gay marriage is legal throughout the entire country.

    get it?

    Which would not be in any way legitimate.

    The Constitution says nothing about marriage. Therefore, per the Tenth Amendment, this is a matter for the states and lower governments, and not for the federal government.

    There is no legitimate power anywhere within the federal government to force upon states a definition of marriage contrary to what each state chooses to use.

    The only way that the federal government could have the legitimate power to interfere in the issue of “same sex marriage” would be to amend the Constitution to explicitly give it that power.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    I raise my hand, pro-gun here! The basis for the second amendment was to keep the people well-armed so they can support the government if we were under attack AND to provide relief from the government if they attacked the people (I use attack as physical and/or oppression). I think having a gun at home is great, just look at Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's OK to Shoot - ABC News (is that hpw I am supposed to cite sources her? (I am new). Look at countries like Burma (Myannmar) where the people could rise up if they were armed.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didn’t have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, I’m allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and I’ve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I don’t, before you know it, you won’t let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    ...The courts have no authority to create new law.....
    that's not what I said.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    “Innocent until proven guilty.”....
    we'e not talking about someone accused of a crime, now are we?

    we're talking about folks wanting to buy a firearm. and if background checks can be instant & easy to produce for everyone, there should be no problem.

    ........but that's only if you want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    we'e not talking about someone accused of a crime, now are we?

    we're talking about folks wanting to buy a firearm. and if background checks can be instant & easy to produce for everyone, there should be no problem.

    ........but that's only if you want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
    Criminals will find a way to get a gun if they really want one.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didn’t have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, I’m allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and I’ve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I don’t, before you know it, you won’t let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    In reality they encouraged them to take flying lessons
    Seems like you aren't up to speed on your enemies thought process, the clown in the video will explain it to you.

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    There were, by most estimates, 500 Nazis in Charlottesville. One of them went homicidal. Not all Nazis are violent extremists. You are trying to rationalize your hatred and it's simply not rational.
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    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Criminals will find a way to get a gun if they really want one.
    yes, scum will try their best to find a way to buy a gun.

    however, we should do our best to make it as hard as possible, for thugs to buy a gun.

    a nation-wide, instant, digital tracking system for all retail & wholesale gun purchases...would be a great move foreward.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You have not the education or the experience to possibly understand what I know on this subject since its something I have been involved with over 35 years including having articles published on it and having lectured at ABA accredited law schools on the topic but yes-racism and bigotry were major foundations of gun control in this country

    The Racist Roots of Gun Control
    I read the article you cite and I also do not believe you. The author is a software engineer with a telecommunications manufacturer in Northern California. What makes him an authority on gun control?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didn’t have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, I’m allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and I’ve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I don’t, before you know it, you won’t let me say nothing at all"
    --Randolph J. Dworkin

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    "It has been said that something as small as the flutter of a butterfly's wing can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway around the world"
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