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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The Constitution pretty much states The right to firearm ownership shall not be abridged...doesnt?...
    yes, within the context of a well-regulated citizen militia, which is supervised, trained, and controlled by a state authority.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    The ATF should be raiding these guns shows and busting everyone breaking the law.

    Mayor Bloomberg and his vigilantes first. then the clowns who allowed all that weaponry to go to mexico

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, within the context of a well-regulated citizen militia, which is supervised, trained, and controlled by a state authority.

    another fail and where does the federal government get the power to regulate small arms

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    another fail and where does the federal government get the power to regulate small arms
    the federal government has the power to regulate all inter-state trade.

    if its made in state A...and sold to someone in state B, Congress has the power to regulate it.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the federal government has the power to regulate all inter-state trade.
    Nope. Swing and a miss.

    if its made in state A...and sold to someone in state B, Congress has the power to regulate it.
    Nope. Swing and miss.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The courts are not infallible and as long as they support infringements on the 2nd amendment then they will always be wrong regarding the 2nd amendment. As long as you support infringements on the second amendment you are not pro-2nd amendment.It amounts to saying you are for freedom of religion but think Judaism should be banned.
    I did not say they were infallible. I said this was our system. BTW, you're not infallibale. We should gets this out in the open. You really are just as likely, if not more likley, to be wrong in how you read than the courts have been, on any issue. That said, the courts are where these questions play out, are debated, the battle fought. Sometimes your belief wins, and sometimes if loses. When our side loses, it is best to not whine and pout and call the court names, but roll up your sleves and make a better argument.

    And you are again making a tree frog to apple comparison. Weapons are not equal to religion. Sorry, you misread the amendment and the law, and are having some trouble seeing what is a real comparison.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Nope. Swing and a miss.

    Nope. Swing and miss.
    (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3). the United States Congress shall have power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes


    FAIL.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the federal government has the power to regulate all inter-state trade.

    if its made in state A...and sold to someone in state B, Congress has the power to regulate it.
    that is intellectually deficient and silly

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3). the United States Congress shall have power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes


    FAIL.
    that was never intended nor ever interpreted to grant the power you claim it does until FDR decided he needed a way to restrict the sale of tommy guns.

    commerce among the several states means the several states-not the people acting as individuals

    FAIL

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Commerce Clause is an enumerated power listed in the United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3). The clause states that the United States Congress shall have power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes


    FAIL.
    And, if you cared to learn about the history of it the commerce clause was included only to make regular trade disputes within the states. This is to limit tariffs placed on goods from one state to another or otherwise to make prices regular according to the Union agreement. States were to be sovereign but could not unduly create a trade imbalance with each other. Thus, the fail is yours. Later.
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