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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Wow, could you be any more deceptive? No one is proposing that gun shows be shut down. It is simply a question of requiring everyone to pass a background check, whether they are buying from a dealer or a private seller.

    I will await for your apology for your prevarication

    Anti-Violence Groups Push To Ban Gun Shows At Fairgrounds - Indiana News Story - WRTV Indianapolis

    Constitutional Law Prof Blog: Gun Show Bans Don't Violate Second Amendment, Ninth Circuit Rules


    http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/lett...gun-shows.html

    that was the first pAGE OF "BAN GUN SHOWS" google search in part

    when you make idiotic claims that NO ONE is proposing____________ you pretty much set yourself up to get schooled

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Absolutely. Bloomberg should clean up his own damned cess pool before attacking another.


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    Who says he isn't. This isn't 1700. The are ways other than horse-and-buggy to get guns from Arizona to NYC.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Who says he isn't. This isn't 1700. The are ways other than horse-and-buggy to get guns from Arizona to NYC.

    the problem is that Bloomberg is a turd. He has no legal right to send people with no authority to other states to violate gun laws and he should be in jail secondly what it shows is that his city's idiotic gun laws are a failure and he should deal with that fact

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Okay, so I guess I'm missing something then. If the gun was sold legally, then it had to be registered by someone, correct? The purpose is to aid in tracing the gun. So what's the objection to registering all guns? Don't tell me -- you're afraid that the big bad gubment is going to confiscate all the guns.

    Guments in the past have used registrations to confiscate firearms,that is the only reason for them.So it is a damn lie to say the government wouldn't use gun registries to aid in confiscation.Besides that how many crimes have been solved or prevented with the use of a gun registration databases? I know I can find a story of someone using their firearm to stop a crime,so surely there should be some stories of law enforcement using gun registries to solve or prevent crimes.Surely the liberal media should have plenty of stories of law enforcement using gun registrations to solve or prevent crimes.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Guments in the past have used registrations to confiscate firearms,that is the only reason for them.So it is a damn lie to say the government wouldn't use gun registries to aid in confiscation.Besides that how many crimes have been solved or prevented with the use of a gun registration databases? I know I can find a story of someone using their firearm to stop a crime,so surely there should be some stories of law enforcement using gun registries to solve or prevent crimes.Surely the liberal media should have plenty of stories of law enforcement using gun registrations to solve or prevent crimes.
    Can we have some cites for those goverment gun roundups that relied on registrations?

    Obviously there is a legitimate purpose for gun registrations. Police departments use them every day to solve crimes.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I will await for your apology for your prevarication

    Anti-Violence Groups Push To Ban Gun Shows At Fairgrounds - Indiana News Story - WRTV Indianapolis

    Constitutional Law Prof Blog: Gun Show Bans Don't Violate Second Amendment, Ninth Circuit Rules


    http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/lett...gun-shows.html

    that was the first pAGE OF "BAN GUN SHOWS" google search in part

    when you make idiotic claims that NO ONE is proposing____________ you pretty much set yourself up to get schooled
    More abject dishonesty form the Terrapin. None of your links (the ones that actually work) cite to anyone seeking a general ban on gun shows. They show two examples where some individiduals sought to keep them from being able to use municipal property. That's it.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the problem is that Bloomberg is a turd. He has no legal right to send people with no authority to other states to violate gun laws and he should be in jail secondly what it shows is that his city's idiotic gun laws are a failure and he should deal with that fact
    Why do I feel like if this conversation were about a Republican politician from Arizona or Nevada or wherever sending people into blue California to investigate whether California was allowing illegal immigrants to flock through that state into others, the response would be totally different?

    Was anybody arrested in this "sting" operation? Or was it just an investigation to see whether gun salesman at this show are acting responsibly? I honestly don't see the harm in anyone conducting that kind of study, no matter where they are from. Might even fall under the 1st Amendment. It's when people are hauled out of their home state and put in prison in another for violating that state's laws without ever having any contact with that state that you run into real serious issues.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Why do I feel like if this conversation were about a Republican politician from Arizona or Nevada or wherever sending people into blue California to investigate whether California was allowing illegal immigrants to flock through that state into others, the response would be totally different?

    Was anybody arrested in this "sting" operation? Or was it just an investigation to see whether gun salesman at this show are acting responsibly? I honestly don't see the harm in anyone conducting that kind of study, no matter where they are from. Might even fall under the 1st Amendment. It's when people are hauled out of their home state and put in prison in another for violating that state's laws without ever having any contact with that state that you run into real serious issues.
    1) Why do people assume this is about holding ideological polarity into account. If an authority oversteps their granted jurisdiction or powers they are out of line and in violation of proper law period. 2) Bloomberg, or as I like to call him Bloomingidiot is a Republican, he converted from the Democrat party in 2001 so your theory of partisanship is null and void, let me repeat, he broke the law of Arizona and the federal laws of the United States of America. 3) If a Republican crossed from Arizona into California in an attempt to uphold immigration laws he would be in violation of jurisdiction and the law, the proper course of action in that case would be to go to the feds and file a grievance, of course this example is irrelevant as there is a duty to uphold immigration law versus a right to bear arms. This analogy failed on multiple levels. 4) Arrests are not the only consideration here, there was falsification in an unauthorized sting operation(basically spying, there is a privacy violation right there), and of course there was conducting a "police action" outside of jurisdiction, they don't even have the defense that they lost the line because of the distance between NYC and Az. The police had no ****ing right to do this and Bloomberg had no authority to issue that action, it's ridiculous to assert that there had to be some kind of legal consequences for this action by Bloomberg to be illegal. That is incorrect.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

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    You need more coffee, keep drinking.
    On my fourth cup today. Cheers.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Why do you want the army or national guard to be regulated ????
    Aren't they?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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