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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    rev, you post nothing new and not seen by myself or nearly anyone to even discuss this subject. But, silliness aside, do we not regulate, as in have regulations that limit, and have not these regulations been upheld? Not a hard question, and not something requiring you to go silly. Just try to answer it honestly.


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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    rev, you post nothing new and not seen by myself or nearly anyone to even discuss this subject. But, silliness aside, do we not regulate, as in have regulations that limit, and have not these regulations been upheld? Not a hard question, and not something requiring you to go silly. Just try to answer it honestly.



    Well if you are going to be arrogantly and ignorantly dishonest in the definition of "well regulated", you shouldn't whine when your called to stand on your misinformation.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Well if you are going to be arrogantly and ignorantly dishonest in the definition of "well regulated", you shouldn't whine when your called to stand on your misinformation.
    Oh, I can and have cited some who read it as meaning it can be regulated. But that has nothing to do with my point. That would be you trying to obfuscate. The point was we have regulations, this reasoning has been used, and the courts have upheld the right to regulate. Do you agree with that or not, or are you going to obfuscate?


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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh, I can and have cited some who read it as meaning it can be regulated. But that has nothing to do with my point. That would be you trying to obfuscate. The point was we have regulations, this reasoning has been used, and the courts have upheld the right to regulate. Do you agree with that or not, or are you going to obfuscate?




    I trailed off your nonsensical point when you tried to make an excuse for your arrogant prevarication. "well regulated" doesn't mean what you tried to argue it meant, there is no obfucation, Just not interested in having snobby arrogant prevarications direct this conversation, clean up your mess, then, we can continue.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I trailed off your nonsensical point when you tried to make an excuse for your arrogant prevarication. "well regulated" doesn't mean what you tried to argue it meant, there is no obfucation, Just not interested in having snobby arrogant prevarications direct this conversation, clean up your mess, then, we can continue.
    Again, you obfuscate. The point was that they are regulated and the courts have allowed that. That people disagree on what well regulated means is irrelevent. When you skip the point, it is you who obfuscates. Sorry.


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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, you obfuscate. The point was that they are regulated and the courts have allowed that. That people disagree on what well regulated means is irrelevent. When you skip the point, it is you who obfuscates. Sorry.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The amendment starts out with the words well regulated, and the courts have repeatedly ruled regulating is allowed, so you may not be as knowledgable as you think you are. And you notice the courts have not struck down the alrge majority of regulations law makers have put in place.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The amendment starts out with the words well regulated, and the courts have repeatedly ruled regulating is allowed, so you may not be as knowledgable as you think you are. And you notice the courts have not struck down the alrge majority of regulations law makers have put in place.



    "well Regulated" isn't what you stated, you can come up with a dumb "they say" retort, but it's wrong. Your continued arrogance and willful ignorance is on full display, like a peackock in full plumage!



    That people disagree on what well regulated means is irrelevent.

    Only you disagree, because well, you are being dishonest. Feel free to provide evidence other than a snotty "cause I posted it" type of response, I mean really boo, if you are going to act this way, you should at least, not lie, and proffer up a little evidence.....


    My car is here, we are off to the game, I am sorry you chose to stick to your guns with this dishonest argument, but that call is yours. It's transparent to all but one. You have a nice day,
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Why is New York wrong? Guns purchased in States with lax laws end up in the hands of people who shouldn't have them in NY and are used in crimes against NY citizens. Seems rational to try and put a stop to it.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Why is New York wrong? Guns purchased in States with lax laws end up in the hands of people who shouldn't have them in NY and are used in crimes against NY citizens. Seems rational to try and put a stop to it.
    Because its non of New York's damn business what constitutional rights someone chooses to exercise,especially a right that says shall not infringe at the end of it.New York has no business pissing on the 2nd amendment and its definitely none of New York's damn business what someone does in another state.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The amendment starts out with the words well regulated, and the courts have repeatedly ruled regulating is allowed, so you may not be as knowledgable as you think you are. And you notice the courts have not struck down the alrge majority of regulations law makers have put in place.
    The amendment starts out with A well regulated Militia. Not a well regulated people's right to keep and bear arms.The militia is the only part that can be well regulated., not the peoples right to keep and bear arms. These are separate rights. Just like religion,free speech,freedom of assembly, are all separate rights in the first amendment. What you are doing amounts to someone saying the 1st amendment says "peaceful", you speech can have anything violent in it.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I wished some of our more fervent right wingers around here would get this upset when O'Keefe releases doctored and edited videos that don't tell the truth as J-Mac is here about something that as far as I can tell, hasn't been falsely edited, didn't break any laws, etc.
    I wish some of our fervent "attack right wingers" around here would be a bit honest in their comparison of a private citizen performing entrapment situations on his own volition or by the spurring of another private citizen and when a sitting mayor does something similar completely and utterly out of his jurisdiction to make it into a political issue.

    I find it interesting that you use the post to bash "right wingers" for not going after O'Keefe, but then completely shrug off this action.

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