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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Sure, you can own the guns that the government says you can, but guns that "look" dangerous were outlawed.
    There's not many of those. I think you can even get automatic weapons today. Not sure why, but it is legal. You can have rifles, shot guns and hand guns. All these years, and still no ban of the right to have weapons. And still, you guys behave like it's goign to happen tomorrow. Can't you see how some can see that as kind of silly?

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    did you also know that in many cases Bloomberg's butt boys would call up someone who had an ad in a paper or gun listing site and ask the seller to meet him outside a gun show so Bloomberg could whine about the gun show?

    Its easy to buy Oxy without a prescription too.
    No I didn't and its not as if I care, didn't you have anything to add about the video, you know the part about the two fellas openly discussing how neither one of them are able to pass a background check just before they engage in the sale/purchase of a deadly weapon(inside a gun show)?

    Also, sorry if you have an oxy problem, I am not sure illegal gun sales are going to help you with those demons.
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    There were, by most estimates, 500 Nazis in Charlottesville. One of them went homicidal. Not all Nazis are violent extremists. You are trying to rationalize your hatred and it's simply not rational.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I do not know if you ever collected comics,coins or anything else but people who collect stuff tend to have huge collections.For example my mom has a huge collection of Flamingo memorabilia. Coffee cups, figurines, cups, that crappy outdoor plastic flamingos,Christmas ornaments,the two dollar flamingo coin from the Bahamas and a who bunch of other stuff.
    "The good thing is, though, if you don't like it you can just sell it later and its not in your name like when you buy a new one you have to worry where it's going to end up".

    I would bet mom doesn't hear that when she is buying or selling flamingos, gee I wonder why.
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    There were, by most estimates, 500 Nazis in Charlottesville. One of them went homicidal. Not all Nazis are violent extremists. You are trying to rationalize your hatred and it's simply not rational.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Well...lets see...

    If something illegal happened I wouldnt really have a problem with a 'sting operation' at gun stores. However...this is Mayor Bloombergs own commentary...



    And you will see...nothing illegal about the transaction (as admitted to by Mayor Bloomberg). If you view a couple of the other clips...you will see where one individual says 'I probably wouldnt pass a background check'. He doesnt say he wouldnt, and he doesnt say what for. now...me? I probably would have sold him the weapon...provided that he agreed to do as I have done with ALL private sales of weapons I have made...met me at the sherriffs office to conduct the transaction. But OK...there are SOME people that may sell legal firearms under questionable situations at gun shows.

    In New York City in 2010, there were 50,300 marijuana arrests alone. Illegal drugs mind you...being sold on their streets.
    In New York City alone (as per the NYTimes) there were 5,913 illegal firearms recovered...about half of which were traced to legal sales in the country...420 originated...gasp...right there in New York. The largest single state provider...not through gun shows...no...it was...New York.

    "The federal government’s recent analysis [pdf] shows that while 420 of the illegal guns recovered in the city had originally been sold within New York State — accounting for the largest single-state total — a majority of the guns had been sold in other states, like Virginia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia."

    Mayor Bloomberg...you have a problem. Maybe you should dedicate more of your time fighting the illegal drugs flowing through your city (which you cant blame on the occasional dealer at a gun show in Az) or even...heck...the illegal gun sales occuring...in your own STATE. Since...you know...this is your cause...

    http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...80227_GUNS.pdf

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    WTF! Who in the hell does Bloomberg think he is? He, nor his police force has ANY jurisdiction in AZ what so ever, and these people he sent in to this gun show under false pretense should have been arrested.

    When I first heard this reported it was reported that these were NYC police, and in fact the story states "task force", but they also say that they are private investigators....If these are NYC police, then AZ state troopers should be outraged at this.

    I can't tell you how this boils my blood.

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    WAY out of his jurisdiction....
    .... dude needs to figure out that "Mayor of NYC" =/= "President of the USA"

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Are you kidding me here? It broke laws....False ID for one. If they took those guns out of state then they were transporting accross state lines, after purchasing them under false pretenses....That is just off the top of my head here...Didn't break any laws....Get outta here with that....


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    The point is the sellers didn't give a hoot about background checks, false ID's or ANYTHING. Your mad that the cats out of the bag.?

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    "The good thing is, though, if you don't like it you can just sell it later and its not in your name like when you buy a new one you have to worry where it's going to end up".

    I would bet mom doesn't hear that when she is buying or selling flamingos, gee I wonder why.
    Mom has a constitutional right to keep and bear arms ,not flamingos so it is not really a bit of different where a firearm or flamingo ends up.
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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The point is the sellers didn't give a hoot about background checks, false ID's or ANYTHING. Your mad that the cats out of the bag.?
    Private sellers do not have to perform back ground checks.So why would they give a hoot about back ground checks, false IDs and anything else they don't have to verify?
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The point is the sellers didn't give a hoot about background checks, false ID's or ANYTHING. Your mad that the cats out of the bag.?
    Which bag is it that the cat is out of? Was there a law that they violated?

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    Re: NYC Mayor Conducts Gun-Sale Sting in Arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, I don't deny this, and there has been almost since the begining of the union. What I deny is that you have anything to really fear. Gun ownership has remained constant, and all of the fretting has just been silliness.
    that is idiotic. half the guns I own, the boxes have "NOT FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA" on them

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