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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    These aren't battles. While he's opinionated, I don't like seeing him get personally attacked.

    Though, your points, besides the "pick your battles/don't seem to get the message[though I perfectly understand it]," I understand.



    I don't see how they have more base against him. He seems to think homosexuals don't make good parents. That doesn't mean his child would be embarrassed and confused about him. Obviously your beliefs differ, so refute his claim [beat this dead horse even deader] with logic.
    Well it's you asking us so the answer is no.

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't see how they have more base against him. He seems to think homosexuals don't make good parents. That doesn't mean his child would be embarrassed and confused about him. Obviously your beliefs differ, so refute his claim [beat this dead horse even deader] with logic.

    I didnt say they CURRENTLY do I said at best they COULD.
    It has already been proved over and over again that 2 guardians are equally as good for a child whether they are man/man, woman/woman, man/woman as long as they are caring loving parents. THis is what everyone has been talking about, 2 loving caring parents period.

    This is a simple fact. Him arguing against it is stupidity.


    Now with that said.

    NP COULD equally be the same type of parent but what COULD be questioned is his ability to do so since he lies, shows his ignorance, intolerance, bigotry and refuses to accept known facts and logic. Hence leading anybody logical to assume his intellect MIGHT be less than avg. and could impact his ablity to be loving and caring.

    Now even IF all this was found to be true, he COULD still be a good parent. BUT logically the avenue to travel down and theorize that he MIGHT not be is paved with very logical possibilities. On the other side the avenue he tries to lead us down is a dead end and supported with nothing.

    SO like I said at worse they are equal at best the comment against him is more likely.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    There is no need to attack him personally. That's my point.
    He doesn't respond to logic, evidence, or basic human decency. What else is there?
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    simple question, who's definition of marriage are YOU using?
    "Whose" is an irrelevant question.

    There is one and only one accurate definition of marriage.

    Naturally, that's the definition I used.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    and whos definition will the courts use?
    Again, "whose" is irrelevant.

    If judges have succumbed to sufficient brainwashing, they could use an erroneous definition of marriage.

    Hopefully they won't.


    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    I think you erroneously think your OPINION of that definition is the only/right one.
    It is understandable that you think that:
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    That is why, sometime in the late 1960s/early 1970s, gay leaders began bombarding the media with oxymoronic (and thus intrinsically false) phrases like "SSM", "same sex marriage", "gay marriage", and the like. The purpose of doing so was to effect a form of mind-control such that after a couple of generations a greater segment of the population would not only be more comfortable hearing these oxymoronic statements, but that a sufficient number of people would actually erroneously think that "marriage" means other than in addition to "a man and a woman as husband and wife".
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    "Whose" is an irrelevant question.

    There is one and only one accurate definition of marriage.

    Naturally, that's the definition I used.



    Again, "whose" is irrelevant.

    If judges have succumbed to sufficient brainwashing, they could use an erroneous definition of marriage.

    Hopefully they won't.



    It is understandable that you think that:

    LMAO this is EXACTLY what I thought you would do

    whos is VERY relevant, now instead of dodging the question please man up and answer.

    who's is EVERYTHING and your own answer will shoot huge holes in you post. Its probably why you choose not to answer. either way doesnt matter to me the fact is your original post I quoted is currently erroneous
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    LMAO this is EXACTLY what I thought you would do

    whos is VERY relevant, now instead of dodging the question please man up and answer.

    who's is EVERYTHING and your own answer will shoot huge holes in you post. Its probably why you choose not to answer. either way doesnt matter to me the fact is your original post I quoted is currently erroneous
    Your question has been answered; there is no other correct answer than this: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060195803.

    That you think there is another answer, well, that speaks to the answer I gave.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I ask you CC did your mother bring anything to the table that a gay man could not bring and I am not talking about a gay man pretending to be a mother.
    What an individual brings to the table is based on that individual. The sex of that individual or sexual orientation of that individual is not relevant. Gender roles, even as parents, are far more interchangeable than they were 50 years ago. So, other than breast feeding, I can't think of anything that a mother could provide that a father... or gay man could not either. And vice versa, too.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It has considerably greater base than what he was arguing.

    I know his education level, how informed he is, and how honest he is from simply reading his posts. By contrast, he knows jack about same sex parents.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Having a vagina or a penis between your legs has nothing to do with how good of a parent you are. The whole notion that kids require opposite sex parents in order to grow into a stable adult is completely ridiculous.

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Your question has been answered; there is no other correct answer than this: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1060195803.

    That you think there is another answer, well, that speaks to the answer I gave.

    LMAO another dodge, no the fact is you still have not answered the question.

    Its a simple question, I have no idea why you find it so hard to answer.

    Ill try again, we'll see if you can be honest and answer this time.

    Who's definition of marriage are you using?
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