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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It would be nowhere near the confusion and embarrassment a child who was raised by you would feel.

    And that sir, is a FACT.
    And that is baseless.

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    Its and undenialable fact of life my left wing friend. There are millions of 2 sex families raising their children the right way. I pity a child who is being raised by 2 men. Imagine the confusion in his life and the embarrasssment when his friends find out........

    LMAO look at this "fear tactic" there would be no confusion at all if they did their jobs as parents.
    also there be no embarrassment by his "friends" if they used it against him they arent is friends, this is just common sense.

    This reminds me of the nutballs that never want their children to experience REAL life, in thos no touch schools and schools where everybody is a winner and nobody loses its all pass/fail no grades. LOL

    Kids are kids and kids without the proper upbringing will make fun of others for being tall, short, skinny, fat, hair color, hair style, wealthy, one parent, being raised by grand parents, having subjectively ugly parents etc etc etc

    its all BS and appeals to emotion that dont make sense in the real world. lol
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    And that is baseless.
    not saying you are right or wrong but it has equally as much base as the same subject that Navy Pride originally claimed.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    not saying you are right or wrong but it has equally as much base as the same subject that Navy Pride originally claimed.
    Navy Pride's statement is biased, as well as the biased statements pointed at him. However, the statements against the person alon, NP, is baseless because people really don't know him. NP's beliefs should be refutred with evidence, if any.

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    And that is baseless.
    It has considerably greater base than what he was arguing.

    I know his education level, how informed he is, and how honest he is from simply reading his posts. By contrast, he knows jack about same sex parents.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Navy Pride's statement is biased, as well as the biased statements pointed at him. However, the statements against the person alon, NP, is baseless because people really don't know him. NP's beliefs should be refutred with evidence, if any.
    Wake, Navy's statements aren't simply biased, they are completely made up. And anyone with half a brain would know that.

    It's the equivalent of saying.

    WAKE IS A RAPIST!

    Refute that with evidence...

    Of course that statement is wildly outlandish and I have no basis for it whatsoever.

    And neither has he for 95% of what he says on the subject of homosexuality or gay marriage.

    And we know that well because some of us have seen him talk about this subject for years.

    The "objectivity" you're trying to have right now is really idiotic.

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It has considerably greater base than what he was arguing.

    I know his education level, how informed he is, and how honest he is from simply reading his posts. By contrast, he knows jack about same sex parents.
    There is no need to attack him personally. That's my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Wake, Navy's statements aren't simply biased, they are completely made up. And anyone with half a brain would know that.

    It's the equivalent of saying.

    WAKE IS A RAPIST!

    Refute that with evidence...

    Of course that statement is wildly outlandish and I have no basis for it whatsoever.

    And neither has he for 95% of what he says on the subject of homosexuality or gay marriage.

    And we know that well because some of us have seen him talk about this subject for years.

    The "objectivity" you're trying to have right now is really idiotic.
    Then utterly destroy his pov with logic and reason. Don't attack him personally by saying this/that. There's nothing idiotic about that.

    NP should elaborate/provide evidence for his pov. When he does, refute it. If he claims that homosexuals are bad parents, don't then say he's a bad parent. Instead, either after he's explained his pov or not, detroy it with logic and evidence.

    I guess you can say it's getting a little old how 10+ members start dog-piling/attacking one member, when logic'll do better.

    [For the record, I think a child should have one mom and one dad, but I don't think that homosexuals make bad parents.]

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    There is no need to attack him personally. That's my point.
    If you have concerns about personal attacks let the mods deal with it.



    NP should elaborate/provide evidence for his pov. When he does, refute it. If he claims that homosexuals are bad parents, don't then say he's a bad parent. Instead, either after he's explained his pov or not, detroy it with logic and evidence.

    I guess you can say it's getting a little old how 10+ members start dog-piling/attacking one member, when logic'll do better.
    YOU DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING THE MESSAGE.

    Wake... we have talked about this subject with NavyPride for years, evidence, facts have been provided for him on this subject that could fill the library of congress and he refuses to acknowledge it at all. It's like how the Long form birth certificate didn't stop Orly Taitz from continuing her birther rampage.

    NavyPride isn't a bad person, and if there are personal attacks the mods will deal with it. But he's just really old school, brought up in a different time with a different outlook. He will likely never come to accept homosexuality in any form whatsoever. He's made that pretty clear.

    You're not looking like an objective person in this case Wake. Pick your battles better.

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Navy Pride's statement is biased, as well as the biased statements pointed at him. However, the statements against the person alon, NP, is baseless because people really don't know him. NP's beliefs should be refutred with evidence, if any.

    Yet at worse they still have equal base at best the comments against him have MORE.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If you have concerns about personal attacks let the mods deal with it.





    YOU DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING THE MESSAGE.

    Wake... we have talked about this subject with NavyPride for years, evidence, facts have been provided for him on this subject that could fill the library of congress and he refuses to acknowledge it at all. It's like how the Long form birth certificate didn't stop Orly Taitz from continuing her birther rampage.

    NavyPride isn't a bad person, and if there are personal attacks the mods will deal with it. But he's just really old school, brought up in a different time with a different outlook. He will likely never come to accept homosexuality in any form whatsoever. He's made that pretty clear.

    You're not looking like an objective person in this case Wake. Pick your battles better.
    These aren't battles. While he's opinionated, I don't like seeing him get personally attacked.

    Though, your points, besides the "pick your battles/don't seem to get the message[though I perfectly understand it]," I understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    Yet at worse they still have equal base at best the comments against him have MORE.
    I don't see how they have more base against him. He seems to think homosexuals don't make good parents. That doesn't mean his child would be embarrassed and confused about him. Obviously your beliefs differ, so refute his claim [beat this dead horse even deader] with logic.

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