The marriages that took place before Prop 8 are already valid. This court case had nothing to do with them. And Prop 8 is not a valid law. It has been determined by an appeals court to be unconstitutional.No, it doesn't. The people of California amended their Constitution with a valid law. We've already discussed that Prop 8 could be upheld and the marriages that took place before could remain valid.
Close enough.You're asking me to paraphrase Smith? Really? Sorry, teach, I didn't take notes. My focus on his opinion was on how Romer doesn't control. he did talk about responsible procreation and the optimal parenting rationale, and he felt generaly that we should be cautious about redefing marriage.
An interesting thing you learn in academia is the difference between skimmers and comprehenders. Skimmers read enough to repeat what other people have said and then present it as their own ideas and pretend that what they say is self evident fact. Comprehenders read to understand the issue and then study to see if what was said is true and then report their opinions based on the evidence they encountered.Wow. I met the "shadow of a doubt" threshold! Go me!
You are a Skimmer. I've shown that to be true in the last few posts by simply asking whether you were capable of showing even a basic comprehension of this case.
A man can marry a woman but a woman cannot marry a woman.
A woman can marry a man but a man cannot marry a man.
Each sex has a right that the other does not. That is an arbitrary infringement by the government on the civil rights of men and women based on nothing other than their sex. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with it. It is gender discrimination pure and simple.
"God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."
The irony of Prop 8 is that it didn't actually eliminate same sex marriage from California. There are over 3,000 same sex couples who have marriages recognized in California simply because they got married before Prop 8.
Last edited by CriticalThought; 02-08-12 at 12:54 AM.
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When a court comes to a decision, the people have a right to remedy through amendment - that is valid law. The appeals process is not over. This isn't settled.
Listen, I'm sorry if my reading and comprehension skills, or my abilities to analyze 100 pages of legal opinion fall short of your standards. I do thank you for your kind and patient attention.